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ALAC/M4A tracks outside iTunes 11, crippled?

Hello,


I imported my complete collection of ALAC/M4A songs from iTunes 11 back to iTunes 10 some days ago (I know; shouldn't have imported them). Yesterday I upgraded again to iTunes 11. All songs are playing okay in iTunes. But when I play the ALAC-M4A tracks in other players like VLC or Windows Mediaplayer the suddenly sound like I am listening to The Chipmunks, completely wrong pitch.....

This happens with the entire collection. (300 self imported CDs helpppp, weeks, months of work gone)


My collection of music is on a external harddrive, so I could also test it on other computers.

But the same symptoms, wrong pitch..... So it's not a faulty PC/Laptop or wrong codec/drivers

I wish it was the PC because my music is much more important to me than my PC.


I Assume something went wrong in some ID3 tag

because they do play okay in iTunes itself.


Does someone know this problem, and better; know how to solve it?

Posted on May 20, 2013 1:52 AM

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Posted on May 20, 2013 6:32 AM

Solved 😀

It was still a codec problem. Something must have been wrong with VLC player on both computers I tested it with. Reïnstalling VLC solved it......

SUCH A RELIEF. Pfffttttt

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May 20, 2013 7:53 AM in response to John Lockwood

Concerning tags; I already assumed I used the wrong word/type for it 🙂 but didn't know the right word for it. Frustrated as I was didn't take the time to search for the right term.


In WMP the ALAC files didn't play at all, so I assumed it was caused by the same codec problem. But indeed now VLC doesn't have the problem anymore, WMP still won't play them. I assume there's a solution for that but I don't bother anymore.


Infact I don't mind which software plays them or not now I know the problem isn't in the ALAC files themself. I was reallllyyyy very affraid all work was gone. It was even worse then I mentioned in the OP. Over 300 full cd (live) recordings of which I didn't have a working backup (I thought), nor the option to download or buy them. Collected over 25 years. Besides my family the most important thing in my life is my music collection. And yes I had backups (even doubles) but they gave the same problem so I was affraid the problems started before the latest backup. (So backups also contained the fault)


BTW: Is there some software which can read and edit the ATOMS of a ALAC file like ID3tagger and alike for MP3 files?

May 20, 2013 8:15 AM in response to LessRam

With regards to editing the ATOMS of an ALAC file, if you have the file in iTunes then iTunes will edit them. If you then share the same file with other programs they will be able to read those tags. I would recommend this approach if you are going to still use iTunes. However for external alternatives look at the following.


http://atomicparsley.sourceforge.net/


As you can see the name plays a pun on the ATOM aspect of MPEG4 files 🙂


http://www.softpointer.com/AudioShell.htm


Despite its appearance it does MPEG4 tags as well as MP3 (ID3) ones.


With regards to getting Windows Media Player to play ALAC files. You have found the right person 🙂 I was the person who came up with the very first solution to enable this and have ensured it is still possible despite Microsoft's best efforts 😠


The original solution was to install a DirectShow filter and a plugin to let WMP read MPEG4 tags. If like most you are now running Windows7 and WMP12 then you need to install the same DirectShow filter but this time it is best done as part of a codec pack which will let you disable the built-in WMP12 Media Foundation codec for (only) AAC. The Directshow filter can play both AAC and ALAC. If you don't disable the built-in Media Foundation codec then it takes presidence over the DirectShow filter.


See http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html


In theory you don't any more need a plugin to let WMP12 read the tags in AAC or ALAC files as WMP12 can itself now read MPEG4 tags. Unfortunately even though the file extension for ALAC is the same .m4a as AAC, and even though the tag format is the same, Microsoft wilfully chose in WMP12 to route ALAC files to the 'other' section rather than the music section.


Fortunately the developer of WMP Tag Plus was able to trick WMP and get round this problem.


See http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/index.htm


If you install these two pieces of software you can get WMP12 to properly accept and play AAC and ALAC music files.

ALAC/M4A tracks outside iTunes 11, crippled?

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