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Q: Apple configurator vs Profile Manager

I downloaded apple configurator and have it working. Then I realized profile manager in OSX Server does the same thing. What is the difference, can I leave it as is? Any benefit of just using profile manager?

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Posted on May 24, 2013 10:09 AM

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  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis May 24, 2013 11:32 PM in response to bpayton1
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    May 24, 2013 11:32 PM in response to bpayton1

    Profile Manager works over the network. Configurator works over USB.

  • by Manuel Plascencia,

    Manuel Plascencia Manuel Plascencia Jun 22, 2013 11:18 AM in response to bpayton1
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    Jun 22, 2013 11:18 AM in response to bpayton1

    Apple configurator has its uses.

     

    Apple configurator can be used as a "manual" standalone solution to manage you iDevices and AppleTVs.

     

    Apple configurator can be used in blended approach with Profile Manager.

     

    With Profile Manager you can manage iDevices , Macs , and I believe AppleTv over the AIR.

     

     

    - Apple Configure Stand Alone.

     

    When using Apple Configurator by itself you can , lock down an iPad in a way you see fit.

     

    1. You can make an iDevice in "Supervise Mode" increasing restricting of your iDevice , Profile Manager cannot do this at the moment , this feature will be available in Mavericks.

     

    2. Any future configuration changes to your iDevices , must be physically plugged in everytime for those changes.

     

    3. You can distribute free and paid apps.

     

    4. You can update your IOS updates all at once. When IOS 7 comes out this fall you probably dont want to touch every iDevice and update 1 at a time. You can use Apple Configurator to download the latest IOS , and any IDevice that you plugin will receive the update, this means downloading th IOS update one time on the mac, and pushing it out to whoever needs it. Profile Manager can't do this.

     

    5. You can name several iDevices sequently. If you have a cart of 30 it will be easy to rename your iDevices. Profile Manager can't do this.

     

    6. Apple configurator allows you to "backup and restore" its not a true complete image but its close. Profile Manager does not do backups or restores.

     

    7. Apple Configurator can be used to erase an iDevice.

     

    8. I'm probably missing some more features.

     

    - Profile Manager Stand Alone

     

    1. You can manage Macs not just iDevices.

     

    2. You must enroll the device before you can manage it, this can be done by pushing out an email , via a website etc.

     

    3. Everything happens over the Air.

     

    4. When enrolling , users can use their Open Directory or Active Directory ( if your Apple server is bound to AD server ). You can also create a generic account for enrolling purposes.

     

    5. You can wipe devices over the air.

     

    6. You can make pass code resets for iDevices.

     

    7. You can manage users in groups , even nested groups. I manage staff and student iDevices. Our wireless system is seperated for staff and students each wireless has its own SSID. I created 2 upper level Profile Manager Groups , one called WiFi Student and one called WiFi Staff, all my student iDevice groups are nested under WiFi Student group and all my staff idevice groups are nested. This makes managing my wifi a breeze. I also include my mifi wireless info , in case i need a backup emergency wireless.

     

    8. Im sure theres other features.

     

    - Apple Configurator And Profile Manager Blended

     

    1. Push out initial wifi settings. I setup a simple wireless router to connect my devices ( there are types when I setup over 50 ipads , and our network runs out of IPs)

     

    2. You can use Apple Configurator to push out Profile Managers "enrollment profile" to many iDevices. You dont want to enroll a full iDevice cart one at a time via a web browser.

     

     

     

    Maverick and IOS 7

     

    In the fall everything will change , it is amazing what we will be able to do. Over the Air Supervise Mode , Install Apps over the air with no user interaction, App codes become licenses , which are revokeable and reusable. Out of the box enrollment ... There may be no need for Apple Configurator come this fall. So many things are changing I recommend watching the new WWDC2013 Videos, specially the one on device management.

     

    Back to original topic. 

     

    I value both products , they have their specilties and when you blended , you can get things done efficiently.

  • by WHSchmidt,

    WHSchmidt WHSchmidt Aug 28, 2013 4:21 PM in response to Manuel Plascencia
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    Aug 28, 2013 4:21 PM in response to Manuel Plascencia

    Thank you for this information.  It is really useful.  I want to buy an iPad for my daughter.  Can I use Apple Configurator on a standalone iPad without connecting it or syncing it with a workstation/computer?


    Thank you in advance for your time and response,

    Sincerely,

    Wade

  • by Manuel Plascencia,

    Manuel Plascencia Manuel Plascencia Aug 28, 2013 5:03 PM in response to WHSchmidt
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    Aug 28, 2013 5:03 PM in response to WHSchmidt

    Apple Configurator App , runs on a Mac Computer. You will need to connect the iPad to the computer running Apple Configurator , to push out the Profiles.

     

    I hope this answers your question.

  • by WHSchmidt,

    WHSchmidt WHSchmidt Aug 28, 2013 5:17 PM in response to Manuel Plascencia
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    Aug 28, 2013 5:17 PM in response to Manuel Plascencia

    Thank you Manuel for the quick response. 

     

    It does answer the question I asked.  Unfortunately, it was not the answer I was hoping for.  Thus it leads to a follow-on question. 

     

    Is there any Apple product or iPad App that will allow me to do similar things for an iPad such as preventing certain applications from running, blocking/filtering websites,  in-app purchases, etc? Maybe something that prevents the download of any App without some sort of Administrator approval or password?

     

    Sincerely,

    Wade

  • by blgh,

    blgh blgh Dec 12, 2013 1:47 PM in response to WHSchmidt
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    Dec 12, 2013 1:47 PM in response to WHSchmidt

    Hello WHSchmidt,

     

    There is no app that I no of. If you have a mac server you can use Profile Manager to eaily push settings. The other alternative would be to use "Restrictions" this is a feature in which you set a password and can manage settings. It allows blocking apps, filtering, in-app purchases and more. It is available under Settings > General > Restrictions.

     

    Hope this helps. If you would like any more recommendations just ask. I can refer you to guides.

  • by Qritiques,

    Qritiques Qritiques Oct 9, 2014 9:07 AM in response to Manuel Plascencia
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    Oct 9, 2014 9:07 AM in response to Manuel Plascencia

    It's now a year after this post, and we have Mavericks installed.

    Maverick and IOS 7

     

    In the fall everything will change , it is amazing what we will be able to do. Over the Air Supervise Mode , Install Apps over the air with no user interaction,

    When we try to install an Enterprise licensed application, our user iOS devices are being prompted to accept the installation.  Is there something we're missing?  Does anyone know how to use Profile Manager on OSX Server to remotely install Enterprise apps without requiring user interaction?

     

    Thanks!