6 Replies Latest reply: Jun 4, 2006 6:23 PM by Todd Berliner
Todd Berliner Level 1 Level 1
I'm confused by the posts regarding what mobile phones will and won't sync with iCal and Addressbook. Apple has a list of isync compatible devices (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/devices.html), but it seems from some of the posts here as though phones not listed will also sync.

Can those of you who know about cellular phones that sync with iCal and Addressbook please recommend some models for me. These are the things I need:

-Cingular service compatibility
-syncs with iCal (including to dos) and Addressbook (must store at least 1500 entries)
-bluetooth
-a small phone would be nice

I don't care whether it has a camera, an mp3player, PTT, picture messaging, video, or voice activation. Wi-Fi would be nice, but it's not imperative. Also, please let me know if I would need to purchase any third-party software or hardware.

Thank you.

Todd Berliner

Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.6)
Reply by mo2 on Jun 3, 2006 3:52 AM Helpful
Try looking at Steve's phone list on http://www.cgwerks.com/whatsyncs/.
I have a Sony Ericsson k700i and it works like the list. My D750i works the same but I tried a w810 and it didn't sync at all. Apple said it's not listed so not compatable. The real drag is that the iCal only syncs for 8 weeks. Why?

Mo2
Reply by Michael Lafferty on Jun 4, 2006 3:37 PM Helpful
The supported device list contains a list of devices that Apple claims are explicitly compatible with iSync out of the box, subject to the limitations outlined in the footnotes at the bottom of the page [the ones that apparently almost no one ever reads] and the general rule that carriers may not support certain features [say, Bluetooth or USB] and may not support certain functions [say, calendar synchronization] with a supported device.

Manufacturers like Audiovox, LG, Samsung and Sharp are not supported, unless they run an OS listed below, instead of their proprietary operating systems. If a device is not manufactured by Motorola, Nokia, Panasonic, Seimens, Sendo or SONY Ericsson, it is generally not supported, unless it uses…

• the Blackberry OS [which requires third-party software]
• the danger HipTop OS [which requires third-party software]
• the Palm OS [which is is supported but performs better with third-party software]
• the Windows Mobile OS [which requires third-party software*]

*Windows Mobile 5 device support is not yet available in release software.

…or, an iSync-compatible plug-in has been written to extend support to a specific device or family of devices.

Julian referred you to a site where he has made a number of plug-ins available for various mobile handsets. Nova Media also sells a low cost package of plug-ins providing support for various handsets.

http://www.novamedia.de/sync/index.html

Others have built single-use plug ins with various degrees of success, which you can find using tools like Google.

The bottom line: if you are going to vary from the iSync Supported Device list, you have to do some relatively extensive research, including searching these forums for your specific device, to determine if it can be supported. Many plug-ins are intended only to work with iSync 2.2, so Mac OS X 10.4.6 is a requirement in most cases.

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  • mo2 Level 1 Level 1
    Try looking at Steve's phone list on http://www.cgwerks.com/whatsyncs/.
    I have a Sony Ericsson k700i and it works like the list. My D750i works the same but I tried a w810 and it didn't sync at all. Apple said it's not listed so not compatable. The real drag is that the iCal only syncs for 8 weeks. Why?

    Mo2
  • Todd Berliner Level 1 Level 1
    Try looking at Steve's phone list on
    http://www.cgwerks.com/whatsyncs/.


    The real drag is that the iCal only
    syncs for 8 weeks. Why?

    Mo2


    Thanks for the helpful link to Steve's phone list.

    What do you mean iCal only syncs for 8 weeks?

    TB
  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7
    W810 does sync perfectly with an iSync plugin I made from here:

    http://mobile.feisar.com/w810isync22.html

    Also, with iSync 2.2, iCal events for up to 1 year are synced.
  • Todd Berliner Level 1 Level 1
    I'm more confused. Julien says that his Sony W810 syncs perfectly with isync, yet the W810 is not listed among Apple's approved sync devices. How am I to know, before I purchase a phone, whether it will sync with my iCal and Addressbook?

    Todd
  • Michael Lafferty Level 6 Level 6
    The supported device list contains a list of devices that Apple claims are explicitly compatible with iSync out of the box, subject to the limitations outlined in the footnotes at the bottom of the page [the ones that apparently almost no one ever reads] and the general rule that carriers may not support certain features [say, Bluetooth or USB] and may not support certain functions [say, calendar synchronization] with a supported device.

    Manufacturers like Audiovox, LG, Samsung and Sharp are not supported, unless they run an OS listed below, instead of their proprietary operating systems. If a device is not manufactured by Motorola, Nokia, Panasonic, Seimens, Sendo or SONY Ericsson, it is generally not supported, unless it uses…

    • the Blackberry OS [which requires third-party software]
    • the danger HipTop OS [which requires third-party software]
    • the Palm OS [which is is supported but performs better with third-party software]
    • the Windows Mobile OS [which requires third-party software*]

    *Windows Mobile 5 device support is not yet available in release software.

    …or, an iSync-compatible plug-in has been written to extend support to a specific device or family of devices.

    Julian referred you to a site where he has made a number of plug-ins available for various mobile handsets. Nova Media also sells a low cost package of plug-ins providing support for various handsets.

    http://www.novamedia.de/sync/index.html

    Others have built single-use plug ins with various degrees of success, which you can find using tools like Google.

    The bottom line: if you are going to vary from the iSync Supported Device list, you have to do some relatively extensive research, including searching these forums for your specific device, to determine if it can be supported. Many plug-ins are intended only to work with iSync 2.2, so Mac OS X 10.4.6 is a requirement in most cases.
  • Todd Berliner Level 1 Level 1
    Thanks Michael. Very helpful summary. You've cleared a lot up.
    Todd