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iPhoto vs. Finder

I'm running into some grinding slow-downs using iPhoto.


I usually capture 35-50 RAW + JPEG shots at a time. In my old workflow I'd import to a desktop file, use Finder to quickly scan, label and discard what I didn't want then save to my "Pictures" folder. Keeping track of 'em after processing (in PS4) was a real pain with the old workflow, but the import/review process was very fast. Now I'm importing directly into iPhoto and what used to take a few seconds is now taking minutes and seems so processor intensive that multitasking slows almost to a stop.


It looks like a better workflow would be a combination of old SD card > desktop folder > review in Finder > iPhoto, but I have to think I'm doing something wrong and iPhoto should handle this better, or at least as well as Finder?
Brian

iPad 2, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on May 27, 2013 11:54 AM

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May 27, 2013 12:56 PM in response to LarryHN

Larry,

I use the RAW files as the backup (the negative as it were) and edit the out-of-camera JPEGs because I want the proprietary Olympus rendering.


Does iPhoto strip the camera JPEG metadata? In that case you would be correct about just shooting RAW (that has no settings). But at that point it wouldn't matter because I would then not use iPhoto if it means losing the unique Olympus look I spent a lot of money to get.

Brian

May 27, 2013 2:09 PM in response to LarryHN

Larry, I don't want to be argumentative, but how do we know that "iPhoto does not strip anything"? Apple doesn't say that, Apple doesn't let you see the full EXIF data.


I just opened a JPEG in Olympus Viewer 3 and the EXIF data is there, but in iPhoto, nothing but the basic exposure settings. So does iPhoto use that to export a JPEG or TIFF for editing?

Brian

May 27, 2013 2:23 PM in response to azartguy

iPhoto does not support all the possible Exif fields. Doesn't remove them, just doesn’t show them.


iPhoto doesn't 'export to jpeg or tiff ' to edit. When you process a photo in iPhoto it records your decisions in the database and applies them to your shot as you view it. They are only set when you export from iPhoto.


If you want to test what metadata is preserved on export, take a shpt, edit it and then export it as a jpeg or tiff (file -> Export) and then view it on your Viewer app.


Note: This User Tip



https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4921



has details of the options in the Export dialogue.

May 27, 2013 2:24 PM in response to Yer_Man

TD, well that's a good point.


However, I can take the RAW (ORF) file into the Olympus Viewer software and apply every in-camera setting seen in the JPEGs and export that as an edited JPEG. It's an extra step, but if I really want every bit of exposure dynamic range and detail in the RAW image, plus the settings used in JPEG rendering as seen by the Olympus software, it can be done.


But that workflow is pointless if those settings don't get written into the metadata and used by iPhoto for future editing or to post to Flickr. In that case the original workflow makes more sense. I'd much rather use iPhoto (Aperture?) and save the time and trouble, for easier cateloging and search and save disc space, but not if I'm not getting the images I want the way I want them,

Brian

May 27, 2013 2:27 PM in response to azartguy

I can take the RAW (ORF) file into the Olympus Viewer software and apply every in-camera setting seen in the JPEGs and export that as an edited JPEG.


That's not the same thing though, is it? That's you using the Oly tools which is not the same as the camera applying them automatically...


Try the test above and see what gets written to the metadata.

May 27, 2013 2:47 PM in response to Yer_Man

TD, took your advice and here are the "accessible" EXIF data (if you can read it) but in summary there is very little difference between the iPhoto and Viewer EXIF except for image size and "transformation color matrix" whatever that is. I conclude that the iPhoto JPEGs are close enough to the Olympus output that it isn't an issue. But my original question, why iPhoto is so much slower than Finder is still a puzzle. Thanks for the input on this,
Brian

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May 27, 2013 2:49 PM in response to azartguy

Back to mhy original post


1 - as a start there is no reason to shoot RAW plus JPEG since you are importing two copies of everything and when you import a RAW you automatically get a JPEG


2 - I would get the photos off the SD card and reformat it using your camer's format command


How are you importing? Card reader? USB cable to the camera?

1 - you are imjporting double of everything


2 - did reformatting the card help It often does


and any chance of answering the question?


LN

May 27, 2013 2:59 PM in response to LarryHN

Larry, answers:

1. As I said, if iPhoto is using the Olympus EXIF data then I still need the Olympus JPEG EXIF data fields. Once that's in iPhoto, then everything is the same. Since I can't back engineer all the RAW data out of JPEG, I want to hold onto the RAW files.

2. I'm not sure what you are suggesting. I have a "RAW Data Edit" feature in the camera, but it creates a RAW image with the changes that are applied to a JPEG file. Just as easy to shoot both and not worry about in-camera conversion; it's easier to post process it in Viewer if I want to do that.

3. SD card reader

Brian

May 27, 2013 3:45 PM in response to azartguy

2 - I would get the photos off the SD card and reformat it using your camer's format command

Try reformatting the SD card as suggested using the format command on your camera - this will assure that the card is properly formatted and has no errors on it -- since this erases your card it is important not to have any photos on the SD card when you do this


And is the SD card reader plugged directly into the Mac or into a hub? - try directly into the Mac if it is not now


LN

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