frozen999

Q: 2 factor authentication avail in Canada?

Two weeks ago I started the process of using 2 factor authentication on my AppleID. Today I received an email saying that the waiting period is over and I can proceed. According to this http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5570 page I should see 2 factor authentication under Password and Security page. Well I do not see anything re 2 factor authentication. Apparently that happens when

 

" When your country is added, two-step verification will automatically appear in the Password and Security section of Manage My Apple ID when you sign in to My Apple ID"

 

In other words it appears that 2 factor authentication is not available to Canada.  Sigh if this is the case then why allow me to initiate the process and then email me to tell me its available when its not???

iPad 2, Windows 7

Posted on May 30, 2013 8:56 PM

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  • by D.R.C.,

    D.R.C. D.R.C. Jun 1, 2013 9:48 AM in response to frozen999
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    Jun 1, 2013 9:48 AM in response to frozen999

    @frozen999,

    I've read various press reports in the last two weeks (at TUAW and elsewhere) indicating that Apple has rolled out 2-factor authentication in Canada, but like you, I see no evidence of it on the Security page of my AppleID account.  It would seem that the announcements were premature.

  • by MikeStnly,

    MikeStnly MikeStnly Aug 12, 2013 7:39 PM in response to D.R.C.
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    Aug 12, 2013 7:39 PM in response to D.R.C.

    Seems it is still not working.

  • by frozen999,

    frozen999 frozen999 Aug 12, 2013 8:27 PM in response to MikeStnly
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    Aug 12, 2013 8:27 PM in response to MikeStnly

    Glad to see that security of our account is still a priority! After 3.5 months of waiting and still nothing.

  • by mjdl,

    mjdl mjdl Aug 22, 2013 3:40 PM in response to frozen999
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    Aug 22, 2013 3:40 PM in response to frozen999

    I've had the problem of poor access to SMS 2-factor authentication for Canadian customers of other web companies offering the service, and the answer has almost always been that the Canadian telco companies or the Canadian SMS aggregator companies which control access to SMS services are responsible for the delay due to money considerations and/or corporate bureaucracy intestinal blockage.

     

    It will get sorted out eventually, I hope (e.g. it took at least a year for Yahoo to sort it out vwith Telus/Koodo).

  • by frozen999,

    frozen999 frozen999 Aug 22, 2013 5:15 PM in response to mjdl
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    Aug 22, 2013 5:15 PM in response to mjdl

    Problem is I don't even know if that is the holdup or not. Surely to goodness that Apple is not withholding SMS 2 step verification simply because of one cry baby carrier? I have even been able to configure the service so Apple has no idea who my carrier is.

  • by mjdl,

    mjdl mjdl Aug 23, 2013 9:59 AM in response to frozen999
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    Aug 23, 2013 9:59 AM in response to frozen999

    I was told on other forums (not by the companies involved) that the way it works is more or less this: a company like Apple does not want to deal with each and every telco company offering SMS to consumers (and vice-versa), so Apple signs on with one or more "SMS aggregators" that offer wholesale SMS access to grouped telco SMS systems, and implements the necessary machine-to-machine access protocols so that Apple's systems talk to the SMS aggregator systems to send the SMS through to individual consumers.

     

    Anyway, something like that! And it all takes considerable time, money and effort to coordinate, apparently...

  • by ezdz,

    ezdz ezdz Oct 28, 2013 1:10 PM in response to frozen999
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    Oct 28, 2013 1:10 PM in response to frozen999

    It's getting kind of ridiculous, how long is it going to take? How can I trust the icloud keychain thing without 2 factor authentication? I've had 2 factor on my google acount for years now.

  • by frozen999,

    frozen999 frozen999 Oct 28, 2013 1:23 PM in response to ezdz
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    Oct 28, 2013 1:23 PM in response to ezdz

    This is why I would never put a credit card in my Apple Account. I only use Gift cards. I have 15 different services configured under Google Authenticator since day one. Sigh

  • by hyrieus,

    hyrieus hyrieus Nov 13, 2013 8:11 PM in response to frozen999
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    Nov 13, 2013 8:11 PM in response to frozen999

    I will never buy Apple products again due to the abissmal customer treatment and really their stuff isn't that great, far better alternatives out there.....nice hardware but LOUSY software and services. Still no 2 factor....cavemen.

  • by matt3830,

    matt3830 matt3830 Nov 24, 2013 10:58 AM in response to mjdl
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:58 AM in response to mjdl

    Should be faster than this to get 2 factor authentication through SMS setup. Apple already has a relationship with all the carriers in Canada. I won't use iCloud Mail for anything important without it.

  • by arctophile,

    arctophile arctophile Jan 6, 2014 2:44 PM in response to frozen999
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    Jan 6, 2014 2:44 PM in response to frozen999

    Any updates to this yet? I haven't seen 2 factor authentication offered in Canada as an option yet but perhaps I am looking in the wrong place.

  • by OoO_Bailey_OoO,

    OoO_Bailey_OoO OoO_Bailey_OoO Jan 8, 2014 12:42 PM in response to arctophile
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    Jan 8, 2014 12:42 PM in response to arctophile

    Unfortunately, there are no updates on this. I chatted with an Apple tech via iCloud Support, but he didn't know anything about two factor authentication and recommended that I call the 1-800 Apple Canada number instead.

    I still haven't followed through on that yet, but you're welcome to. Please post back if you do.

  • by D.R.C.,

    D.R.C. D.R.C. Jan 12, 2014 5:21 AM in response to OoO_Bailey_OoO
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    Jan 12, 2014 5:21 AM in response to OoO_Bailey_OoO

    I have a couple of AppleIDs. Both have Cdn addresses registered.

    One started life as a mac.com account. It got converted to an AppleID when mac.com folded years ago.  It don't use it much. That account has the two-factor authorization available. i haven't enabled the feature, but it is available to me on the Password and Security page.

     

    The second is my primary AppleID account. Two-factor authorization option  is not visible on that account.

     

    The lack of 2Factor on Canadian accounts has nothing to do with difficulties in dealing with the wireless carriers or SMS aggregators, as suggested by mjdl above. It's purely an Apple administrative issue.

  • by mjdl,

    mjdl mjdl Jan 12, 2014 10:20 AM in response to D.R.C.
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    Jan 12, 2014 10:20 AM in response to D.R.C.

    I think the evidence of the differing treatment of your mac.com and other Apple ID probably does point to Apple administrative issues, especially as Google, Microsoft, Dropbox, Twitter, etc., all seem to have SMS authentication for Canadian area code numbers.

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