12 Replies Latest reply: Jun 14, 2013 2:32 PM by rccharles
NonTechKaren Level 1 Level 1

I've got a tangerine iBook and can't afford to get anything newer. My operating system is OS X 10.4.11. I've been using Camino as my server, but now when I click on it to get on the Internet I'm told that Camino is no longer being developed and I should get another server. I've got an outdated computer, an outdated operating system, and an "outdated" part-time-work income. (I use free WiFi at the library.) Is there a good alternative to Camino? I also have Safari, but that's outdated, and doesn't let me connect with many websites.


iBook, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 300 MHz Power PC G3, Memory 544 MB
Solved by BDAqua on Jun 9, 2013 10:42 AM Solved

Hello Karen,

 

You're in luck...

 

TenFourFox is the most up to date browser for our PPCs, they even have G4 & G5 optimized versions...

 

http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

 

SeaMonkey seems pretty fast also, with many options, but is older also...

 

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

 

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Reply by rccharles on Jun 10, 2013 11:57 AM Helpful

See if you can pick up something through http://www.freecycle.org/

 

Here is the latest

Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1069

 

You want to see if you can max out the memory on you machine.

 

TenFourFox works will for me on 10.4.11.  It does use a lot of memory.

 

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/iBooks-PowerBooks/G3-iBook/

 

Robert

Reply by rccharles on Jun 12, 2013 2:39 PM Helpful

I have an iMac g3 600 with 1gig of memory.  I'm running TenFourFox on 10.4.11.

 

www.pacareerlink.state.pa.us  on TenFourFox 17.0.7

came up within 10seconds for me

 

on safari it took long 15 seconds but looks the same

 

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  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10

    Hello Karen,

     

    You're in luck...

     

    TenFourFox is the most up to date browser for our PPCs, they even have G4 & G5 optimized versions...

     

    http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

     

    SeaMonkey seems pretty fast also, with many options, but is older also...

     

    http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

     

    http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

  • rccharles Level 6 Level 6
    expertise.classicmacos
    Classic Mac OS

    See if you can pick up something through http://www.freecycle.org/

     

    Here is the latest

    Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger

    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1069

     

    You want to see if you can max out the memory on you machine.

     

    TenFourFox works will for me on 10.4.11.  It does use a lot of memory.

     

    http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/iBooks-PowerBooks/G3-iBook/

     

    Robert

  • NonTechKaren Level 1 Level 1

    Robert,

    I don't know what you mean by seeing if I can max out the memory on my machine. I know how to tote my laptop to the library, and how to rush to this discussion group whenever I have a computer crisis. I'll look into the servers that have been mentioned, and see if I can learn about them before deciding what to download.

     

    Safari 4.1.3 is the version I have and there are some websites that try to start (or whatever websites do) with it, but I can't get them to work.

  • rccharles Level 6 Level 6
    expertise.classicmacos
    Classic Mac OS

    Safari 4.1.3 is the version I have and there are some websites that try to start (or whatever websites do) with it, but I can't get them to work.

     

    Provide links to sites that do not work & we can try.

     

    servers should be web browsers.

     

    Robert

  • rccharles Level 6 Level 6
    expertise.classicmacos
    Classic Mac OS

    To discuss adding more memory, give OWC a call. 1-800-275-4576  ( http://www.macsales.com/ )

     

    Robert

  • NonTechKaren Level 1 Level 1

    Robert, I got on Safari, and because of the new "commercials" for OS X Mavericks - where different pictures kept coming up - it took me literally 4 minutes before I could get a website to come up. Not good when the Apple web server overwhelms my out-dated Mac iBook.

     

    I was able to check my mail at mail.yahoo.com, and look for work at www.pacareerlink.state.pa.us, but at times it took about a minute to go from one "page" to another. I'd get the gray & white spinning circle in the right-hand-side of the "box" where I enter the web address, and had to wait while it did a lot of "thinking" before finishing the task.

     

    As far as additional memory goes, I'm pretty sure that when I installed a larger hard drive I upped the memory to the greatest amount that discussion group folks told me my circa-1999 laptop can handle. I could look into getting additional memory, but if it costs anything, it's over my budget. I've got a 12-hour-a-week job that pays the rent and phone bill. I've got a 4-hour a week cleaning job that pays for gas. On occassion I get some sewing to do, and I splurge and buy groceries.

  • rccharles Level 6 Level 6
    expertise.classicmacos
    Classic Mac OS

    I have an iMac g3 600 with 1gig of memory.  I'm running TenFourFox on 10.4.11.

     

    www.pacareerlink.state.pa.us  on TenFourFox 17.0.7

    came up within 10seconds for me

     

    on safari it took long 15 seconds but looks the same

     

    Picture 4.png

  • NonTechKaren Level 1 Level 1

    BDAqua and Robert,

    TenFourFox seems to be the way to go. I was researching web servers for older Macs, came upon this post:

     

    http://www.nathanson.org/davesays/2011/best-web-browser-old-macs-panther/

    and decided Opera 9.64 was what I should use. I downloaded it, but it was so slow that I uninstalled it.

     

    Next I downloaded Seamonkey, using the link BDAqua was good enough to post. I was not able to open it because it was "not supported on my system".

     

    Then I downloaded the TenFourFox version for G3 processors. It works, it's not too slow, and I'll probably get used to it.

     

    I've spent so much time at the library that they're about to close, so I'll have finish this at another time.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10

    Thanks for the report, & good luck!

  • NonTechKaren Level 1 Level 1

    I'm back at the library, for my final report.

     

    The TenFourFox server is probably what I'll stick with. It seems to be working, but nothing is going to give me fast, wonderful service, because my iBook is seriously out of date. (As of yesterday Yahoo mail officially forced me to use their new version, and it doesn't work well because I'm supposed to have a higher screen resolution than I have.)

     

    For anyone else trying to find a good server, each computer has different results. It doesn't matter what others can do with the same server -- Install and then uninstall (by dragging the icon that's in Applications to the trash bin) until you find something that works best for you.

     

    I'll be keeping Camino at least for a while because it has all my saved info. Right now I'm using Camino to get to this Apple Discussion Group. I can get here using TenFourFox, I can sign on, but I when I click on History to find this post, I'm told I have no history because I haven't looked at anything. (I figured my History was determined by my log in info, but with a new server I apparently have to know the name of the posts I've looked at in order to find them again.)

     

    Thanks for everyone's help, and good luck to others trying to get by in a world that rapidly makes your electronics too old to use.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10

    I apparently have to know the name of the posts I've looked at in order to find them again.

    Actually, you can visit your profile page & see your recent posts & click on them...

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/people/NonTechKaren

  • rccharles Level 6 Level 6
    expertise.classicmacos
    Classic Mac OS

    I tend to think dashboard is neat, but not neccesary for my everyday workflow.

     

    it is possible to enable and disable it as needed,

    by entering the following commands into the terminal:

     

    -- To turn Dashboard off:

    defaults write com.apple.dashboard mcx-disabled -boolean YES

     

    -- To turn Dashboard on:

    defaults write com.apple.dashboard mcx-disabled -boolean NO

     

    -- You have to restart the Dock after making either change for it to take effect:

    killall Dock

     

    Bye Bye Dashboard

    http://www.kainjow.com/kermitsoft/downloads.html

     

    Disable Spotlight, Bonjour and Dashboard:

    http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8749558#8749558