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  • Shaun Ferguson Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    Strange - click on the link for the details about the MacPro (2013) and you get this:

    http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

    a black page ....

  • Shaun Ferguson Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    I have an external DVD drive for my G5 now. It's a lot faster than the Apple one.

    I've always felt the Apple-supplied drives to be the least efficient part of the system, even in the days of OS 7 ...

  • Leslie Bell Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)

    Check again. When it loads in, I get a photo of the new mac pro on a black background, the caption "Mac Pro: The Future of the Pro Desktop. Coming Later This Year"

     

    And then an arrow at the bottom that says "scroll to continue" and 17 dots on the right side to navigate through seventeen more "pages" of info.

     

    The "expansion" page is interesting, and is a big "so what" to all the naysayers. "We wanted to create an enormous amount of expansion.... WITHOUT BEING LIMITED TO THE SPACE INSIDE THE ENCLOSURE."

     

    Maybe this is a new presentation they just put up. If so, it ROCKS.

     

    I like this thing even MORE.

     

    I think I figured it out. We finally have a desktop that's right out of Star Trek, and the complainers are wondering what they're going to make pizza with.

     

    Aye. Scotty would be quite proud of this beastie.

  • DieselFuelForLife Level 2 Level 2 (370 points)

    Bill Butler wrote:

    ALL Macs until recently had an internal drive for removable media.

    You are incorrect. They all still do, until the 2013 Mac Mini Pro is released.

  • Bill Butler Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    DieselFuelForLife wrote:

     

    Bill Butler wrote:

    ALL Macs until recently had an internal drive for removable media.

    You are incorrect. They all still do, until the 2013 Mac Mini Pro is released.

     

    Hmm. Looked at the lineup lately? You might want to take a closer look at the current Macbook Air, Macbook Pro, Mac Mini and iMac. See any CD/DVD drive?

  • zachi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    what are you guys talking about removable media all the time.

    buy a simple dvd writer and attach it by usb.

     

    in comparison that you cant have a standard nvidia gpu

    the removable media problem is quite harmless, wouldnt you agree?

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,745 points)

    I don't know if you noticed or not but Apple is removing the optical drives from all of their computers so what is your point.

     

    I have seen external DVD drives duct taped to the bottom of non-optical drive MacBooks on airline flights.

     

    It looks pitiful.

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,745 points)

    We finally have a desktop that's right out of Star Trek

     

    I'm not so sure, in several episodes I saw Mr. Spock go inside the computer.

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,745 points)

    Hmm. Looked at the lineup lately? You might want to take a closer look at the current Macbook Air, Macbook Pro, Mac Mini and iMac. See any CD/DVD drive?

     

     

    Yes, I do.

     

    http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/features/

     

    I'll take the model on the right, with a built-in optical SuperDrive.

  • Bill Butler Level 2 Level 2 (180 points)

    I see it. The Mac Pros with retina display do not have a Superdrive, but the regular display models do.

     

    If they are still being made in 2014, those two models will be the only ones. So there's that. thx for the correction

  • Mark Piaskiewicz1 Level 3 Level 3 (570 points)

    The problem I have with using Thunderbolt for expansion is that Apple and Intel have kept the cost of the Thunderbolt interface so high that it's preventing it from being used to its fullest capability, and therefore keeping it from gaining in popularity. When Firewire was introduced it had two clear advantages over USB, speed and the ability to daisy-chain. As it stands, Thunderbolt loses on both counts. Yes, it's got the theoretical speed advantage and it can, also in theory, daisy-chain.

     

     

    In reality, Thunderbolt hard drives don't daisy-chain because of the additional cost of the necessary electronics. Sure, you can find that feature along with speed increases on expensive RAID arrays, but not on consumer level devices. A 1 Terabyte Thunderbolt drive costs roughly THREE times what a 1 Terabyte USB 3.0 drive costs, has no daisy-chaining ability and has no speed advantage over USB 3.0. If Thunderbolt 1.0 is that expensive, how much more of a premium will people have to spend on Thunderbolt 2.0 peripherals?

     

     

    Apple better keep the older design around until Thunderbolt peripherals cost no more than Firewire. Right now, I see the new Mac Pro going the way of the Cube. A cool, though impractical footnote in the history of the Mac.

  • FatMac>MacPro Level 4 Level 4 (3,545 points)

    Mark Piaskiewicz1 wrote:

     

    The problem I have with using Thunderbolt for expansion is that Apple and Intel have kept the cost of the Thunderbolt interface so high that it's preventing it from being used to its fullest capability, and therefore keeping it from gaining in popularity...

    Another problem may be this: currently, we can install HDs and/or SSDs in the four bays and the lower optical drive bay. All of them connect to the SATA bus.

     

    For SSDs, TRIM support is beneficial and with TRIM Enabler or an alternative, TRIM support can be applied to non-Apple SSDs on that bus.

     

    I'm no expert but from what I've read, TRIM is part of the ATA protocol and is thus supported by it. If the SSD is connected via a different protocol, such as USB 3.0, TRIM is not supported (I've tried it).

     

    Since Thunderbolt will be the way to expand storage space, and since large capacity SSDs are becoming more available, cheaper, and way faster than HDs, is TRIM supported on Thunderbolt-connected SSDs which would be used for storage expansion?

  • Leslie Bell Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)

    Well Shaun, looks like your post got canned, so I'll answer here.

     

    a. DEFINITELY buying the new mac pro.

  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (47,175 points)

    Polls conducted here on ASC are a violation of the TOU and are usually deleted as soon as the Hosts discover them. There are plenty of other site for that type of thing.

     

    Allan

  • Leslie Bell Level 2 Level 2 (340 points)

    Ah thanks. Wasn't aware of that.

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