So long, Logic

rcook349 wrote:

I was hoping we migth hear something in all the WWDC announcements today (especially since a new Mac Pro was announced), but no.

It's already over?

(and when was the last time that they used WWDC to announce a new version of Logic?)

OK, well, you can go and use whatever DAW you want can't you - its mostly about going through the learning curve and then being able to use the software to do the kinds of things you want it to do, so, if you've been into Pro Tools and you think you know your way around it, it might be a good option for you.

As Seeren says, Apple haven't announced stuff like that in that kind of way before, so I don't think your observation really means anything in particular.

I got the Harrison Mixbus recently and I absolutely love it - it doesn't cover what I do in Logic (yet) but I just love the style of it. Maybe it might be developed to be a really interesting bit of kit for me, but, obviously, I don't know what may happen there...

If you were hoping to get new information about Logic at WWDC then you were ill advised and should have invested the two hours on your music career.

If anything shows that Apple still cares about the pro customers then look at the new Mac Pro. Or how many updates did they push out for Final Cut Pro X in two years. Apple is doing their thing at their own pace. It's always been that way. You have the freedom to look somewhere else if you don't like that

If you look for guarantees for the next ten years for you investment, sure you can jump to ProTools. Just a tip, look at the financial situation (past and present) of Avid and tell me if those bean counters who are running that company are able to run the company into the ground over the next 10 years and destroy all those great tools created by great developers.

(remember, the grass is always greener on the other side)

Hope that helps

Edgar Rothermich

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Like it or not more (professional) people have left Logic for other platforms the last couple of years simply because of the lack of communication and the problems Logic has been having with the new operating systems.

I wont's upgrade from Snow Leopard and and Logic 9.1.5 because my system is stable and pretty much works flawlessly. I have upgraded a couple of clients machines to the latest OS/Logic and there have been performance problems on both machines. These folks are beginners using only Logic plugins so I know it's not third party plugs. There is a decrease in performance under Lion and an even more noticeable decrease under ML.

I use Logic on ML daily and it's a monster, as fast as ever, takes everything I throw at it. Never crashes. Really stable, and this is on an old Mac Pro Harpertown from 2008!

That said, PT11 is going to rock, and as stated, it doesn't really matter how well AVID does, the program is entrenched and whoever takes it over, if that ever happens, won't affect it. I still like Logic's way for quickly assembling a composition, but the lack of interest from Apple is awful.

I got the Harrison Mixbus recently and I absolutely love it - it doesn't cover what I do in Logic (yet) but I just love the style of it. Maybe it might be developed to be a really interesting bit of kit for me, but, obviously, I don't know what may happen there...

I just did so myself and I wonder if we could get a thread going about the Logic/Harrison experience? I've been working on some great consoles but never on a Harrison. Although it is not the "real thing", I'm looking forward to have a go at it!

Cheers!

Thanks for the heads-up on this... I had to get it once checking it out.

What would the Logic-Harrison experience be?

>> What would the Logic-Harrison experience be?<<

I'm not sure at the moment, but we'll soon find out after we've installed the beast. To start with I'll use it as for what its name suggests. Haven't got a clue how to incorporate Logic into all of this and my previous experience with Jack does not make me to confident either about a trouble free coexistence of the applications. But we'll see and all I'm really interested in is what do I benefit sound wise and.........after all works as advertised, how can I benefit in a smoother workflow when mixing. I really hate the operating plugin distraction when in a finale mixing stage. So lets give it a try, I still wait for it's arrival though........

Have a nice day

The Harrison Mixbus is running under Ardour (& Jack).

I've used Ardour under Linux, (on a PC), I thought the sound reproduction was excellent even without the Mixbus integration.

The sale price is worth every penny.

Yeah, I remember looking at Ardour as a possible contender for a sequencer running on Linux - it wasn't recently - I obviously didn't pursue it - I don't know whether there's still a lack of Linux support for all the things you need is unless you're a programmer - I believe we had a previous discussion about that anyway, some time or other.

One of the things about the feel of the Harrison Mixbus that struck me before I'd verbalised it, was that the GUI is very similar in style to Linux/UNIX based software, which seems like a good sign somehow.. he he..

Well, anyway, I did find it obviously intuitive to begin doing something with it, but I haven't seriously recorded anything yet, still finding out...

Well, if you want to work at other people studios or collaborate in the post world, you should go PT in the first place. If you want to run your own thing, the LP9 you've been running for the last 4 years has most of the technologies PT11 users will get in a couple of weeks/days. Do you want the eMagic/Apple dudes to reinvent the wheel every year? Do you want Apple to communicate with you every month to tell you you have an advanced DAW in LP9? Being a fan of LP will not land you a gig in the MI, btw. I'm not telling you all this to be a smart hasse, but this kind of outburst of emotions on the Apple forum is pretty pointless.

About a year ago I tried to use Jack (Lion OS), it was a total failure then, I just could not get it to work proper. Have the developers of Jack sorted out problems with Lion by now?

Regards.

Hear, hear……..

I totally agree!