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Q: Bootcamp without Optical disc drive

Hi everyone. I want to install windows 7 on my iMac 24'' (mid 2008) but my optical disc drive is broken. I tried to install it with an USB flashdrive, but the system don't recognize it as a bootable device. I have the windows 7 ISO, vmware fusion, refit (i searched on the interet for the solution but i couldn't find any). thanks for help !

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jun 15, 2013 2:12 AM

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  • by Eric Ross,

    Eric Ross Eric Ross Jun 15, 2013 2:34 AM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Jun 15, 2013 2:34 AM in response to VittorioZanetti

    In order to boot from the USB drive it will need to be partitioned as GUID file system and formatted as Mac OS X extended journaled. Check the drive in disk utility. 

  • by VittorioZanetti,

    VittorioZanetti VittorioZanetti Jun 15, 2013 2:43 AM in response to Eric Ross
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    Jun 15, 2013 2:43 AM in response to Eric Ross

    Thank you Eric, you're very kind. I formatted the USB as you told me.

    now I don't know how to put the file on the USB drive. can I just drag & drop the .ISO file on the USB drive?

    thank you again

  • by mende1,

    mende1 mende1 Jun 15, 2013 2:46 AM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Jun 15, 2013 2:46 AM in response to VittorioZanetti

    You can only install Windows from an external disk if you have a Mac that didn't come with a SuperDrive: the MacBook Pro with Retina display, the MacBook Air, the Mac mini and the Late 2012 iMac.

     

    If you haven't got one of these computers, you can't install Windows from an external drive. Firmware doesn't allow it, so you will get a no bootable device message if you try to install Windows. The only thing you can do to install Windows in Boot Camp is to get a SuperDrive.

     

    Another option is to get an external optical drive and install Windows in VMware Fusion

  • by VittorioZanetti,

    VittorioZanetti VittorioZanetti Jun 15, 2013 2:55 AM in response to mende1
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    Jun 15, 2013 2:55 AM in response to mende1

    thank you for your help ! so i won't be able to use the USB drive on my iMac to install windows.
    could you please explain me how to create an external optical drive on vmware fusion?

    is it possible to native boot windows with the optical drive?

    thank you

  • by mende1,

    mende1 mende1 Jun 15, 2013 2:57 AM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Jun 15, 2013 2:57 AM in response to VittorioZanetti

    An external optical drive is a peripheral that you can connect to a USB or FireWire port and use it to load DVDs onto the iMac.

     

    With an external optical drive, you can't install Windows in Boot Camp, but you can install it in VMware Fusion. It will ask you for the source you want to use to install Windows, so insert a DVD with Windows and choose it to install it

  • by VittorioZanetti,

    VittorioZanetti VittorioZanetti Jun 15, 2013 3:06 AM in response to mende1
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    Jun 15, 2013 3:06 AM in response to mende1

    ok ! so if i want to native boot windows (to have windows on bootcamp) with my iMac, i need a superdrive.
    am I right? there's no other solution? 

  • by mende1,

    mende1 mende1 Jun 15, 2013 3:08 AM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Jun 15, 2013 3:08 AM in response to VittorioZanetti

    There is no other solution

  • by VittorioZanetti,

    VittorioZanetti VittorioZanetti Jun 15, 2013 3:10 AM in response to mende1
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    Jun 15, 2013 3:10 AM in response to mende1

    ok thank you for your help !
    i do appreciate your concern  

  • by mende1,

    mende1 mende1 Jun 15, 2013 3:14 AM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Jun 15, 2013 3:14 AM in response to VittorioZanetti

    You are welcome

  • by CamdenY,

    CamdenY CamdenY Nov 11, 2013 3:54 PM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Nov 11, 2013 3:54 PM in response to VittorioZanetti

    Hey mate,

     

    I know this thread is a bit old but I hate misinformation!

     

    You are able to install windows off a usb key in any mac you choose (regardless if it has an optical drive or not! that's actually irrelevant)  The only reason your unable to boot from the key is, you've got to actually make the usb key 'bootable'. (And use a third party boot menu such as refit, which you already have)

     

    From what I'm reading your trying to format the key in a "mac" format and then just simply dropping the iso onto the key. Thats never going to work even on a PC scenario. What you will need is access to someone's windows pc (your friends or work maybe) to make the bootable key using a program like "Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool".

     

    Then, and only then will refit see the key as a bootable device.

     

    If you need step by step instructions have a look at this blog

     

    http://www.ksptechnology.com/blog/macbook-install-windows-7-with-boot-camp-witho ut-an-external-dvd-drive/

     

    Hope that help

     

    Update:

    I forgot to ask what version of osx you are running, because later version of bootcamp do infact have usb support built in.

  • by VittorioZanetti,

    VittorioZanetti VittorioZanetti Nov 17, 2013 2:23 PM in response to CamdenY
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    Nov 17, 2013 2:23 PM in response to CamdenY

    Thank you tomorrow I will try this solution and surely let you know.
    i have mac os x 10.6.8, snow leopard

  • by VittorioZanetti,

    VittorioZanetti VittorioZanetti Nov 21, 2013 12:41 PM in response to CamdenY
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    Nov 21, 2013 12:41 PM in response to CamdenY

    Hi CamdenY, I tried your procedure but it didn't work as expected. refit says: "not found returned from legacy loader" and "not found from locatedevicepath". i tried the PRAM reset, i tried a different usb drive but nothing solved the issue thanks anyway for your suggestions i really do appreciate it i guess it's time to get used to my imac without the bootcamp partition...so sad :\

  • by Kunu,Helpful

    Kunu Kunu Feb 26, 2014 9:32 AM in response to VittorioZanetti
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    Feb 26, 2014 9:32 AM in response to VittorioZanetti

    ***Solution That Worked for ME***

     

    I had a similiar problem where I wanted to install windows on a macbook pro (early 2009) that had a broken optical drive, using a bootable windows 7 USB, but the mac wouldn't recognize the USB because it only checks in the optical drive.

     

    Solution:

    1.  Download the Windows 7 ISO file here: http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325 /

    2. Use Windows 7 USB DVD Download tool (found here http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool to make a bootable windows 7 USB.  (this has to be done on an exisiting windows machine, but there are googable solutions to do this process using just a mac)

    3. Also transfer a copy of the ISO file to the mac

    4. Use Daemon Tools Lite (free, found here: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/products/dtLite) to mount the ISO file thats on your mac. (open daemon tools, click quick mount, click the iso file, very easy!)  This tricks bootcamp into thinking that a windows 7 install disk is inserted.

    5.  Run Boot Camp, I chose to skip downloading the drivers and did that separately here: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5634 by cliking on the macbook pro model and then the number in the grid to download the boot camp drivers to a separete usb.  Once windows was installed, it was easy to open the USB and run bootcamp settup.

     

    **THE TRICK**

     

    6.  When the computer restarts after bootcamp finishes, insert the bootable windows 7 USB into the mac when the screen is black, and then hold down the C key as soon as you hear the mac turning on sound.  This command tells the mac to boot from USB.

     

    I did not find any discussions of simply pressing the C key to boot from USB in similiar threads, and people just said that you need the disk if your mac has an optical drive.  I finally found this trick out here: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1533

     

    The windows installation should now be running, and all thats left now is to choose the Bootcamp partition when it asks, and to click on it, click drive options, click format, and then click next to continue on with the installation.

     

    Hope this helps anybody that had the same problem as me, I did a lot of googling!

  • by rhiekel,

    rhiekel rhiekel Jun 16, 2014 11:14 PM in response to Kunu
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    Jun 16, 2014 11:14 PM in response to Kunu

    Kunu thank you so much. You are DA MAN !!!   Spent hours looking in google,

    with the tech experts saying to repair the antique optical drive. Your solution

    worked perfectly !!!

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