13 Replies Latest reply: Jun 16, 2013 7:44 PM by Kirby Krieger
greg1424 Level 1 (0 points)

Aperture, why when I delete from an album it deletes it from the project folder also.

 

I thought that it was the other way round, in that the library was not the main entry.

 

I have 10 project folders and 6 albums and I want to remove the albums and keep the projects "as is"

I am unsure as to how I wound up with albums in the Aperture program.

 

thanks

 

Greg

Lamont


OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 (12,510 points)

    Hi Greg.  How are you deleting the Images in the Albums?

     

    As we go forward, let's stick to these names for the parts:

    - Projects (not "Project Folders").  The show in the Library Inspector with an icon that looks like an old-fashioned box for files.

    - Folders.  They hold Projects and Albums and other Folders.  They do not hold Images directly.  The icon looks like a folder.

    - Albums.  There are several kinds.  The icon for regular Albums shows two rectangles, the front-most nearly covering the other, and surrounded with a bright white border.

     

    --Kirby.

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 (25,722 points)

    If you run the command remove from album (delete key) on a version in an Album then the version is only removed from the Album.

     

    If you  run delete version (command-delete) then the version is deleted from the Aperture library and if this is the only version for the original the original is removed also.

     

    See Deleting version also deleted the master for more information on this. For what it is worth the way Aperture handles this is wrong but had been this way since the beginning.

     

     

    regards

  • greg1424 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am just hitting the trash icon to delete the image out of the album.

     

    One other thing the section is named ALBUMS and under it is Library Albums and then under that are the albums that I want to delete certain images.

    Not sure that is important but I wanted to mention it.

     

    Greg

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 (25,722 points)

    Ah, interesting. Never used the Trash icon in the toolbar (never even put it in there until now).

     

    Just tried it and the Trash icon is running delete version not remove from album so that's why what you see is happening.

     

    Just remember if you want to remove a version from an album run Remove from Album not Delete version

     

    regards

  • greg1424 Level 1 (0 points)

    WOW!

     

    I did not realize that, I have always hit that button, I simple thought it was a shortcut.

     

    Does this hold true for the projects, in other words if I download from the camera and want to discard unwanted photos can I simplr hit the trash icon?

    AND can I also hit the icon it I want to remove a photo from the project that I no longer want in any folder?

     

    I hope I made myself clear in the questions.

     

    Thanks

     

    Greg

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 (25,722 points)

    As I wrote the trash icon seems to be running Delete version.

     

    Delete version does just what it's name implies it will delete the version(s) selected and more them to the trash. In addition if the version is the only version then the original is deleted also. See the tip I linked to above.

     

    This will be true no matter where the version selected is located.

     

    Hope this answerers your question.

     

    regards

  • greg1424 Level 1 (0 points)

    I guess I answered too soon.

     

    I tried your way and it still removes it from the project.

     

    I also created a new project, transfered the 82 photos from the album and then deleted an imge out of the album and it removed it from both the original project and the new one I set up.

     

    I tried both an image that I adjusted and an original that I did not make any PP to.

    The PP versionhave 2 options  said " Delete original image and all versions" and "Delete Version", the the PP image just said "Delete Version" 

     

    Very frustrating

     

    One other thing, these images were transfered from iPhoto when I first got Aperture.

    I will keep them in my iPhoto and a External HD as back up.

     

    Greg

  • greg1424 Level 1 (0 points)

    Never mind, do not know what I did the first time, but I closed out reopened and I was able to delete the albums without effecting the project

     

    Again, thanks for your help

     

    Greg

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 (12,510 points)

    Never used the Trash icon either (and generally don't show the Toolbar).  But at least the Tooltip is correct:

    KirbSnap 5.jpg

    Now that I think on it, clicking "Trash" _should_ put the item in the Aperture Trash.  The confusion comes from the use of "Delete" -- specifically using a key with that label to execute a command that changes based on not only what kind of item is selected, but where the item is located.  So in this case (let me parenthetically add I have yet to take part in my morning caffeine ritual) "Delete" in the Tooltip does not equal "press and release the 'delete' key", but rather is used as a verb (rightly, imho).

     

    Not sure what a better design might be, but perhaps at least popping up a window saying, "The selected items are Images in an Album.  Would you like to remove them from the Album, or move them to the Aperture Trash (which will delete them from the Project they are in)?".

     

    Greg -- I suggest using the context-sensitive menu (a/k/a "right-click") to select the command you want:

    KirbSnap 8.jpg

     

    Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger - formatting and clean-up.

  • greg1424 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks,

     

    Just so you know, I have a Wireless Track Pad, (Love it) and I have to use the 2 finger for the right click.

     

    This may sound silly, but is there a right click for the track Pad?
    I realize you may not know, but it is not something that is an issue, just curious.

     

     

    Greg

  • Frank Caggiano Level 7 (25,722 points)

    The standard secondary click is to  tap using two fingers.

     

    Does that not work for the Trackpad?

  • léonie Level 10 (90,896 points)

    This may sound silly, but is there a right click for the track Pad?

    Or the old-time substitute ctrl-click;

    just hold down the ctrl-key while clicking. That is useful, if you are having the fingers on the keyboard anyway, or when you are working with a portable mac on the road and don't have a stable desk.

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 (12,510 points)

    "Right-click" is no longer literal.  In many cases it is refered to as a "secondary button click", or even just "secondary click".  There are many ways to effect it in OS X.

     

    http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57584236-285/five-ways-to-right-click-on-a-m ac-trackpad/

     

    See if there is a Preferences Panel for your trackpad ("➞System Preferences").  Here is the Preference Panel for the MBP trackpad:

    KirbSnap 4.jpg

    (Click for large sharp image.)