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  • Mike Dyall-Smith Level 1 Level 1

    OS X 10.6, macbook pro, Geneious  (June 20)

     

    And Geneious has already issued an update to fix the problem.

    see:

    http://www.geneious.com/web/geneious/news/-/blogs/java-update-for-geneious-mac

     

    I have updated, and it now functions again. I would also say that Geneious support has been excellent.

     

    Mike DS

  • geoff-addepar Level 1 Level 1

    Does anyone know specifically what causes this problem? I'm a developer who wants to fix our now-broken application, but I can't find any resources to point me in the right direction when debugging.

     

    The PaperCut site indicated that changing the look and feel might help, but that does not help me. We're using a custom L&F here with a bunch of extra ComponentUI classes, so I can't just change to another one.

  • nyagil Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Mike,

    Can you give us a lead as to what fixed the problem on Geneious ?,

    I switched the LAF but still the whole app I am supporting is stuck ...

    tx,

    Noam

  • Mike Dyall-Smith Level 1 Level 1

    You will need to ask at Geneious (www.geneious.com). They released an update that replaces the affected version. They must know what the problem is, but have not said anything on their support pages about how they solved it. I imagine they spent a stressful time sorting it out.

    - Mike DS

  • nyagil Level 1 Level 1

    I am following those threads too, but changing the laf does not help my app

    one thing i found out the swing thread is somehow blocked, and takes the next event in the queue

    only when I resize the application window size

  • yangyang_zhang Level 1 Level 1

    I have the same problem. Matlab stopping working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Apple is such a loser that they cannot offer quick solution!!!!!!!!!

     

    My thesis work is serious delayed!!!!!!

  • nixwizard Level 1 Level 1

    I have the same problem. Affected programs include FigTree and Dendroscope. A day of lost work. Thanks a lot Apple! Maybe in 10 years OS X will be ready for the enterprise..

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.applewatch
    Apple Watch

    Apple is such a loser that they cannot offer quick solution!!!!!!!!!

     

    Again, so many people here are blaming Apple, but please keep in mind that Apple is really not involved here. The update code is entirely created by Oracle, no matter whether you downloaded it from Oracle's site, allowed Java to update itself or accepted an Apple software update that provided it. Apple, at most, did no more than provide an important third-party software update.

     

    If you want to be mad at someone, that's your prerogative, but at least choose the right people. You should be annoyed at Oracle, for allowing Java to get into such a bad state with security that major overhauls have become necessary, and at the maker of whatever Java-based software stopped working, for not keeping it better updated.

  • nixwizard Level 1 Level 1

    Thomas A Reed wrote:

     

    Again, so many people here are blaming Apple, but please keep in mind that Apple is really not involved here. The update code is entirely created by Oracle, no matter whether you downloaded it from Oracle's site, allowed Java to update itself or accepted an Apple software update that provided it. Apple, at most, did no more than provide an important third-party software update.

    java -version

    java version "1.6.0_51"

    Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_51-b11-456-11M4508)

    Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.51-b01-456, mixed mode)

     

     

    from java.com:

     

    Why I cannot  find Java 6 for Mac OS X here?

    For Java versions 6 and below, Apple supplies their own version of Java. For Mac OS X 10.6 and below, use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java 6 for your Mac. For issues related to Apple Java 6 on Mac, contact Apple Support.

  • sdgilbert Level 1 Level 1

    Mr. Reed,

     

    Do you have any evidence that, in fact, Oracle supplied the code for this update? Up until last year, all of Java 6 was supplied by Apple; this was NOT the Sun/Oracle version of Java. The Java Look and Feel was entirely written by Apple.

     

    It's possible that, when Apple stopped supplying their own version of Java, they turned over the code to Oracle for them to update. However, with the latest update (to 1.6.0_51), the system properties java.vendor = "Apple, Inc.", and java.vendor.url.bug = "http://bugreport.apple.com".

  • hpp23 Level 1 Level 1

    Thomas A Reed:

    but please keep in mind that Apple is really not involved here.

     

     

    If I discuss the aforementioned problem in an Oracle Java Forum, I will receive the following answer:

     

    Java 6 for Mac is provided by Apple. It is better to ask on Apple support forums.

     

    That says it all.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.applewatch
    Apple Watch

    Apple used to supply their own version of Java 6, and it caused problems for people and headaches for Apple, because their updates were invariably late. They had to fold the updates into their codebase, and that took time. Apple has since washed their hands of that, and they provide Java 6 through the same old interfaces only as legacy support. It's all Oracle code at this point, as evidenced by the fact that it was perfectly timed with Oracle's release.

     

    Really, folks, this Apple-bashing is not only not based on reality, it's also completely and utterly useless and unproductive. Java is a complete mess, and only Oracle can be blamed for that.

  • hpp23 Level 1 Level 1

    Thomas A Reed wrote:

     

    ... Java is a complete mess, and only Oracle can be blamed for that.


     

    Sorry, this is absolute nonsense.

     

    Oracle yesterday supplied Java 7 u25. All my Java Swing applications run under this updated JRE/SDK without problems. Why should I blame Oracle?

     

    Some of my Swing Apps must also be supplied for Mac users who did not installed Oracle's Java 7 JRE, and use Apple's Java 6 JRE, which is now broken.

    Apple is solely responsibe for this buggy update.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.applewatch
    Apple Watch

    Aside from the relatively minor fact that Apple used to be responsible for Java 6, Java 6 and Java 7 are very different. They have significantly different codebases. You don't suppose that that might not be more relevant to the problem?

     

    In any case, I'm tired of trying to bring some reason into this topic, so I'm bowing out. If blaming Apple somehow helps you to get your problem fixed, more power to you.