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MacBook Air won't boot with full battery, unless additional "2 min" kick-start adapter charge.

Sometimes my MacBook Air 2010 doesn't boot (doesn't show any sign of life, no screen, sound, etc.) even though the battery is fully charged. Only after I plug in the adapter for about two minutes it does boot. In this case I can disconnect the adapter immediately afterwards and it works fine, say, 7 hours, and I can shut-down and boot several times, indicating the battery was fully charged already and is healthy. This is frustrating when taking the laptop with me outdoors, because this means its useless and unreliable (usually it boots fine!). Help me please!


I've tried all possible alternatives listed here:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Things-to-Do-if-Your-MacBook-Does-Not-Turn-On-133 615.shtml

(Based on this: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1367?viewlocale=en_US)


Many thanks in advance.

MacBook Air, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.3)

Posted on Jun 20, 2013 11:31 AM

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Jun 20, 2013 3:56 PM in response to Rits.G.

Kudos on your efforts to solve your issue. However you are using a word that may be a problem, 'sometimes'.


Intermittent problems are very often difficult to diagnose. Your best option is to make an appointment at an Apple store genius bar. Bring your power adapter with you and hope that the MBA misbehaves in front of the technician.


Ciao.

Jun 21, 2013 6:16 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

Thanks for your reply, but I have some more info to add:

When I wrote the original post, this was the situation. I used the laptop with no problems for many months. Now this problem occured twice since only three days. Today it hapened again. Thus, perhaps it can be further isolated.


First time the battery was 90% charged, and it did boot after several minutes of connecting the adapter.

Second time the battery was 20% charged, and it did boot after several minutes of connecting the adapter.


Today it was different. This night I left my MacBook Air charging so it must have been at 100% this morning (adapter light was also green). However, this morning it won't boot, and the 'connect it to the adapter trick' doesn't work!


1- perhaps internally the laptop switches from battery to net-power after a few minutes of charging if not fully charged, and if this does not happen my power button doesn't function? Is there more info on the logic/internals related to this?


2- less logical (no pattern yet): the power button does not work if the laptop believes the screen to be closed?


Many thanks!

Jun 21, 2013 7:10 AM in response to Rits.G.

The genius bar is clearly the place to go and have this sorted out. It seems things are getting worse which is good because it should be able to find the problem much easier. 😀


If you would, please post this from System Profiler>Hardware>Power>Battery Information. This is from mine:


User uploaded file

This is not to suggest that I will have a solution, but more to satisfy my curiosity.


Ciao.

Jun 23, 2013 6:40 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

I kindof did it, and I bet you even a Genius wouldn't have figured this one out!


What did I do? Well I checked everything: opened up the macbook, measured power going in, measured power reaching battery, measured battery giving charge back, measured power going through logic board and, finally, tried power-on skipping the keyboard/mouse by connecting the power-on pads on the logic board - but it did not boot!


So my logic: 1) somewhere on a very elementary level something is broken that prevents a power-on between the power-on pads and whatever is next. 2) this broken thing was temporarily fixed twice when I was able to charge my battery for several minutes, as if things were 'heated up a bit'. 3) because my battery is full now I cannot do this heat-up trick. Thus, why not put my MacBook Air on the heater for a few minutes? And guess what !? I press the power-on several times: nothing, but then, after a few minutes: "boom!" (Steve Jobs style), its boots perfectly! And I have been using it for a few hours now.


My father suggested two possible causes:

A) two metal elements that should connect have been damaged and only just don't connect in normal state. When heated up these elements expand just enough to reach each other, allowing the MacBook Air to boot.

B) some dust is stuck between two elements that should not connect: when the atmosphere is very humid (as it is now where I am) this dust absorbs water, meaning it connects these two elements causing the MacBook Air to be unable to boot. When it is heated up, the water evaporates and it is able to boot again.

Either way, I would be really helped if someone can tell me what are the elements on the logic board involved in power-up, and how the paths run along the logic board connecting these elements. They shouldn't be many.


User uploaded file

Jun 23, 2013 7:02 AM in response to Rits.G.

The information that you are requesting is not in my knowlwdghe base and I suspect requires a schematic. Whether a genius bar has such information I cannot say, but I think that would be the first place to try.


I commend you on your perseverence and resourcefullness. Very few users would have had the imagination to try what you did.


Some MBPs with failed GPUs have been recussitaed by 'baking' the logic board in an oven of about 190° c for about 7 minutes. This is refered to as a 'reflow' by some and does involve cleaning off the thermal paste first and then reapplying it after the oven step. Consider this as a high risk proposition but if you feel that the MBA is in a 'nothing to lose' state, you might try this.


Ciao.

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