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helpd trying to connect to strange websites

I've got Little Snitch installed and recently helpd have been trying to connect to websites that look strange to say the least. server-54-230-99-152.arn1.r.cloudfront.net and images1.chictopia.com are just some of the hosts.


I understand that helpd fetches manual pages for installed software, but it mostly does this when the computer is otherwise idle and chictopia.com does not sound software-related at all, it appears to be a clothing site.

I've run ClamXav to see if I might have picked up something nasty but it doesn't find anything. Any ideas?

MacBook Pro (15-inch Late 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 30, 2013 11:32 PM

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Aug 28, 2017 12:03 PM in response to ankhank

I have the same problem with helpd. I get requests (some of these blocked with Little Snitch) by

- pixelmator.com (I uninstalled with AppCleaner !!) ù

- s3.amazonaws.com (like others in this discussion)

- other connections including apple.com


In all these years there is some news or at least some tool to understand from where/what these connection requests arrive?

Oct 31, 2013 11:16 AM in response to MadMacs0

I have a similar problem, but that link didn't help as it doesn't mention helpd. I sent an email to the support link of the website that helpd keeps wanting to connect (it is a valid website for the maker of "Pacifist"). So my question, MadMacs, is which section of that linked article would apply in our cases?

Oct 31, 2013 11:40 AM in response to romad

romad wrote:


I have a similar problem, but that link didn't help as it doesn't mention helpd. I sent an email to the support link of the website that helpd keeps wanting to connect (it is a valid website for the maker of "Pacifist"). So my question, MadMacs, is which section of that linked article would apply in our cases?

In your case, none. I can confirm that Pacifist does keep maintain it's help pages on charlessoft.com, so that is a valid request. In my case, I also see that Flip4Mac and/or Flip Player do the same thing with telestream.com.


That being said, the main causes of redirects to advertising these days involves browser extensions, so that would be the first place to look if you are having that sort of issue.

Apr 2, 2014 4:37 PM in response to MadMacs0

MM0, I know this is an old thread, but I've been searching around in vain for an explanation. The past few days, I've been getting a number of helpd wants to connect to various sites alerts from Little Snitch. I've read the link you provided from Thomas, but I don't really see how that would be applicable to this helpd thing. I don't see this as being a browser redirect. Possibly adware, but if so, wonder why from helpd?


To my knowledge I haven't installed anything from the known adware sites. I did just install Magic Prefs, but that came directly from the dev, and I've recently updated Flip4Mac, also directly from Telestream. Almost as soon as I installed that update, I got a helpd connection attempt to telestream. And some time before that, a helpd connection attempt to s3.amazonaws.com. Magic Prefs appears to get a clean bill of health.


I've also looked in ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.helpd/Generated, and I'm not finding anything there that would explain these connection attempts. The latest is to images.software.com. The reverse DNS is to 205.251.242.187, which is an Amazon IP. To my knowledge, I've never even visited software.com. FWIW, it comes up clean on Virus Total.


Of course, adware doesn't usually get included in malware definitions.


They have all been port 80.


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Apr 3, 2014 5:29 AM in response to WZZZ

An update. I've started running Sophos on this 10.8.5, and I temporarily disabled its web protection items through which all connections were being made. By doing that, I was able to see that Firefox was connecting to images.sofware.com on startup in the Little Snitch network monitor. No idea why it wants to do that, but I've now blocked it. Kind of puzzling why and to what helpd decides it wants to connect.

Apr 3, 2014 10:05 AM in response to andyBall_uk

I guess that's certainly possible. No idea which Add-on would need to connect to software.com, or why, though. FF does connect to Ghostery and some other Add-ons, like NoScript, on startup, and helpd never wants to connect to either of those. it's just very strange what helpd decides to what it wants to connect.


Also, I never saw this when I was running from 10.6, so maybe it's a 10.8 helpd thing.

Apr 3, 2014 11:40 AM in response to WZZZ

I started this last night, but have way too much going on right now. One of my projects came to an unexpected stop, so I can give you a few minutes now but it will probably be ten days or so before I have time to take it on as a project.

WZZZ wrote:


The past few days, I've been getting a number of helpd wants to connect to various sites alerts from Little Snitch. I've read the link you provided from Thomas, but I don't really see how that would be applicable to this helpd thing. I don't see this as being a browser redirect. Possibly adware, but if so, wonder why from helpd?

Yes, I recommended that page without noticing that helpd was involved. After I saw the me too from romad I realized I was on the wrong track.

To my knowledge, I've never even visited software.com.

Maybe you should. It seems to be a clean site with only a couple of tracker cookie from Google and what site doesn't have that. OTOH it's brand new, introducing this product just last month and apparently located in Wilmington, DE. This will give you an idea of what it's features are supposed to be:

User uploaded file

So it would appear to be some sort of Cleaner app with MacUpdate like features. I hesitate to speculate like this, but I'm hoping they aren't considering using the MacKeeper partnership advertising model. I don't see any obvious links to how to become an associate/partner, but I think it would behoove us all to watch to see how their advertising campaign runs.


I did download the installer and it seems very clean with no hidden adware installers. It's code-signed with an Apple Developer ID and it would appear to simply install and applications named "Software.com". Pacifist shows:


User uploaded file


I'm most mystified by the role that helpd plays here. I can't find any developer documentation on it and I don't understand why Apple needs a daemon running to perform help functions. It would seem that the Help Viewer itself is fully capable of downloading help files that are stored and maintained on the web. From what we've seen here, there are a few developers using the Apple Help framework's helpd process to access and display their help files. I can speculate that there might be ways to utilize this capability to display other things, such as whatever image file it's after in your case (download button perhaps).


Again, I think we should start watching this more closely, but I don't really have much to suggest at this point.

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