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I am on SL 10.6.8 but keep losing HD memory?

Hi,

I am on an IMac Intel Duo 2...4 G RAM 500 G memory..latest FF & Safari but every day I started to lose HD memory and now, 8 - 10 Gigs of memory is gone?


I clear browser cache everyday..no movie or music downloads but went from 320 G to 292 Gs of HD space in just a few weeks? I reboot and get back some but can't understand the loss?


Any suggestions on how to get it back?


Thanks!

iMac (21.5-inch Late 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), Running Snow Leopard

Posted on Jul 7, 2013 1:56 PM

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Jul 7, 2013 2:03 PM in response to Intelnewbietoday

Use a utility like OmniDiskSweeper 1.8 to see what you have stored in your Home folder (leave the /Home/Library/ folder alone.) You can then see about paring what you don't need.


Bear in mind the OS X will use disk space for logs, cache files, and temporary files, but these are pared automatically on periodic schedules.


Do not start erasing system files you may find in the System and Library folders or you will likely find yourself having to reinstall OS X.

Jul 7, 2013 2:04 PM in response to Intelnewbietoday

Oh, and here's some other helpful information:


Kappy's Personal Suggestions About OS X Maintenance


For disk repairs use Disk Utility. For situations DU cannot handle the best third-party utility is: Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption. Drive Genius provides additional tools not found in Disk Warrior for defragmentation of older drives, disk repair, disk scans, formatting, partitioning, disk copy, and benchmarking.


Four outstanding sources of information on Mac maintenance are:


1. OS X Maintenance - MacAttorney.

2. Mac maintenance Quick Assist

3. Maintaining Mac OS X

4. Mac Maintenance Guide


Periodic Maintenance


OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) See Mac OS X- About background maintenance tasks. If you are running Leopard or later these tasks are run automatically, so there is no need to use any third-party software to force running these tasks.


If you are using a pre-Leopard version of OS X, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts was significantly reduced after Tiger. (These utilities have limited or no functionality with Snow Leopard, Lion, or Mountain Lion and should not be installed.)


Defragmentation


OS X automatically defragments files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive except when trying to install Boot Camp on a fragmented drive. But you don't need to buy third-party software. All you need is a spare external hard drive and Carbon Copy Cloner.


Cheap and Easy Defragmentation


You will have to backup your OS X partition to an external drive, boot from the external drive, use Disk Utility to repartition and reformat your hard drive back to a single volume, then restore your backup to the internal hard drive. You will use Carbon Copy Cloner to create the backup and to restore it.


1. Get an empty external hard drive and clone your internal drive to the

external one.

2. Boot from the external hard drive.

3. Erase the internal hard drive.

4. Restore the external clone to the internal hard drive.


Clone the internal drive to the external drive


1. Open Carbon Copy Cloner.

2. Select the Source volume from the left side dropdown menu.

3. Select the Destination volume from the left side dropdown menu.

4. Be sure the Block Copy button is not depressed or is ghosted.

5. Click on the Clone button.


Destination means the external backup drive. Source means the internal startup drive.


Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager appears. Select the icon for the external drive and click on the upward pointing arrow button.


After startup do the following:


Erase internal hard drive


1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.

2. After DU loads select your internal hard drive (this is the entry with the

mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the

drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is

failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be

reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the

DU main window.

3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the

drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended

(Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to

GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait

until the process has completed.


Restore the clone to the internal hard drive


1. Open Carbon Copy Cloner.

2. Select the Source volume from the left side dropdown menu.

3. Select the Destination volume from the left side dropdown menu.

4. Be sure the Block Copy button is not selected or is ghosted.

5. Click on the Clone button.


Destination means the internal hard drive. Source means the external startup drive.


Note that the Source and Destination drives are swapped for this last procedure.


Malware Protection


As for malware protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. Starting with Lion Apple has included built-in malware protection that is automatically updated as necessary.


Helpful Links Regarding Malware Protection:


1. Mac Malware Guide.

2. Detecting and avoiding malware and spyware

3. Macintosh Virus Guide


For general anti-virus protection I recommend only using ClamXav, but it is not necessary if you are keeping your computer's operating system software up to date. You should avoid any other third-party software advertised as providing anti-malware/virus protection. They are not required and could cause the performance of your computer to drop.


Cache Clearing


I recommend downloading a utility such as TinkerTool System, OnyX 2.4.3, Mountain Lion Cache Cleaner 7.0.9, Maintenance 1.6.8, or Cocktail 5.1.1 that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old log files and archives, clearing caches, etc. Corrupted cache files can cause slowness, kernel panics, and other issues. Although this is not a frequent nor a recurring problem, when it does happen there are tools such as those above to fix the problem.


If you are using Snow Leopard or earlier, then for emergency cleaning install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the command line. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard. AppleJack 1.6 is compatible with Snow Leopard. (AppleJack works with Snow Leopard or earlier.)


Installing System Updates or Upgrades


When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand.


Backup and Restore


Having a backup and restore strategy is one of the most important things you can do to maintain your computer. Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):


1. Carbon Copy Cloner.

2. Deja Vu

3. SuperDuper!

4. Synk Pro

5. Tri-Backup


Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance and backup and restore.


Always have a current backup before performing any system updates or upgrades.


Be sure you have an adequate amount of RAM installed for the number of applications you run concurrently. Be sure you leave a minimum of 10% of the hard drive's capacity or 20 GBs, whichever is greater, as free space. Avoid installing utilities that rely on Haxies, SIMBL, or that alter the OS appearance, add features you will rarely if ever need, etc. The more extras you install the greater the probability of having problems. If you install software be sure you know how to uninstall it. Avoid installing multiple new software at the same time. Install one at a time and use it for a while to be sure it's compatible.


Additional suggestions will be found in:


1. Mac OS X speed FAQ

2. Speeding up Macs

3. Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

4. Essential Mac Maintenance: Get set up

5. Essential Mac Maintenance: Rev up your routines

6. Five Mac maintenance myths

7. How to Speed up Macs

8. Myths of required versus not required maintenance for Mac OS X


Referenced software can be found at CNet Downloads or MacUpdate.

Jul 7, 2013 2:42 PM in response to Intelnewbietoday

Thanks Kappy .. have run a disk utility and went over everything in my home folder by size to see if I downloaded anything big - nothing!


I do find that Time Machine backups seem to lower my memory as well.


Does the new Firefox and or Safari take up a lot of room on my HD?


Is there a specific program that eats up my HD memory in particular?

Jul 7, 2013 2:52 PM in response to Intelnewbietoday

oh, and one more thing,


I noticed a strange thing recently...all my windows kept opening one after the other and certain zip files appeared to be unzipping on their own accord?? This was so fast.. I immediately reloaded the finder..is it possible that some of these files actually extracted fully? I am not sure which ones as this was happening at lightening speed.


Thanks again!

Jul 7, 2013 3:05 PM in response to Intelnewbietoday

I don't know. It's possible.


If you actually found Time Machine backups on the iMac (not your backup drive) then you do this:


Open the Terminal in the Utilities folder and enter or paste the appropriate command line. Press RETURN and enter your admin password when prompted. It will not be echoed.


To turn them ON: sudo tmutil enablelocal


To turn them OFF: sudo tmutil disablelocal


Note that turning them OFF will also delete all existing snapshots.


OS X Mountain Lion- About local snapshots. If you really have old backup snapshots on the internal drive this will remove them.


As for the other issue check what you may have installed in Login Items in the Users & Groups preferences. Also, check the /Home/Library/LaunchAgents/ folder for any .plist that is starting up an unzipper application. Also open General preferences and check the option to Close windows when quitting applications.

Jul 7, 2013 4:09 PM in response to Kappy

LOL Thanks but def not!!! I would know immediately that would be a huge no no!


I just meant, when I run Time Machine, after it is finished, the HDD memory goes down at least 2=5 G as well.I am constantly rebooting to get back some - usually I get back around 3 Gigs but I find this so odd. I was wondering if Firefox or Safari updates are considerably larger than the previous ones..say, taking up at last 8 Gigs each? As you can see..I had around 320 and now only 292 without any major downloads - all big files are on my backup HDD.

Jul 7, 2013 8:05 PM in response to Intelnewbietoday

Intelnewbietoday wrote:


I clear browser cache everyday

That is a huge waste of time, IMHO. Cache is there to speed up various processes, so when they are cleared then additional time is required to rebuild them and browsing is slowed as you replace those associated with the sites you frequently visit. In general, cache should only be cleared if you suspect corruption.


If you feel your browsers are using more cache than you need, Firefox allows you to reduce it from 350MB to whatever in Firefox Preferences->Advanced->Network tab->Cached Web Content section.


Safari has removed this capability because they believe they know what the optimal settings are for the average user, but you can use something like MacPilot to change the Back/Forward Cache expiration time or completely disable cache. You can also do the latter by enabling the Developer menu (Safari Preferences->Advanced->"Show Develop menu in menu bar" check box) and selecting "Disable Caches".

went from 320 G to 292 Gs of HD space in just a few weeks?

That sounds like a good thing. Did you reverse those numbers?


General guidance is that you need about 20% free space on your boot drive in order to accommodate temporary files, mostly the virtual memory (VM) used to compensate for not having sufficient RAM to run all your applications simultaneously. So right now you are right on the edge of running out of HD space. Some of this can be overcome by increasing the amount of RAM you have, but ultimately you are going to have to either purchase a larger hard drive or offload some of what you have onto external storage.

I am on SL 10.6.8 but keep losing HD memory?

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