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So Russ and Fox, thank you for your help with my jittery NX5U footage. Now as I watch the DVD on my TV, the footage is no longer jittery BUT the DV footage is twice as clear as the NX5U footage. Hopefully I'm doing something else wrong because the NX5U originally recorded the footage very clean. HELP!!

P.S My wedding was shot on a VX-2100 and the aforementioned NX5U so I'm editing both formats in the FCPX timeline (or whatever they call it now).

Final Cut Pro X, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Jul 13, 2013 9:19 AM

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Russ H

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Jul 13, 2013 10:53 AM in response to larrypops

In FCP's event browser could you select a clip from each of the cameras? Then, with the Info pane view of the Inspector set to Basic View, post screen shots of the entire Info pane.

Russ

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Jul 13, 2013 11:34 AM in response to Russ H

First shot is VX-2100 with great results:

Bottom one is NX5U:

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larrypops Author

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Jul 13, 2013 11:41 AM in response to Russ H

Here's the setting view for each camera. VX2100 (top) NX5U (bottom)

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larrypops Author

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Jul 13, 2013 11:42 AM in response to Russ H

Once again remember, everything is in Standard definition.

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Tom Wolsky

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Jul 13, 2013 11:47 AM in response to larrypops

Yes, but one is in I-frame DV/DVCPRO and the other is MPEG-2, which an incredibly heavily compressed format. How did you get this into FCP? Not sure if there is anything good that can be done at this stage. You might try optimizing it and see if it looks better. I'm sure this format has to be rendered in the timeline assuming you're editing in a DV based project.

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Jul 13, 2013 12:06 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Hi Tom,

On both formats I clicked import. The DV was brought in in real time and the NX came right in from the SD card.

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Jul 13, 2013 12:10 PM in response to larrypops

Gotta get ready for a wedding shoot today. I'm hoping we can continue this tomorrow. Needless to say I'll be using only my VX2100s until I can figure this out.

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Jul 13, 2013 12:10 PM in response to larrypops

And Tom, I'd be willing to start over if I could solve this problem!

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Russ H

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Jul 13, 2013 1:06 PM in response to larrypops

I would be interested in hearing about the results of Tom's Pro Res results suggestion. Also interested in what happens by just dropping one of the MPEG clips into a new project and letting FCP determine all settings automatically. Then Share>DVD to see how the quality held up.

I want to also repeat the suggestion that I made in your first thread: that you test shoot progressive HD with the NX5U– say, 1080p30 (which is 29.97) and then lrt FCP downconvert to DVD. You could also do a third test test to see how well it works mixed with the DV clips.

Russ

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Tom Wolsky

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Jul 13, 2013 1:27 PM in response to larrypops

Are you shooting widescreen anamorphic on the VX2100. If so, then you should shoot HD on the NX5. The codecs and data rates are much, much better. The highest data rate on MPEG-2 SD is 9Mbps. The data rate of DV is 25Mbps. The H.264 codec used in AVCHD is signficantly better than the old SD codecs. The high data rate is much better. Test it using 1080p30.

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Jul 15, 2013 11:43 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

OK Here's the latest. I'm using my old iMac (10.6.8) and FCP 6.0.6. I log and captured my DV footage, and imported my NX5U footage AFTER converting it in mpeg-streamclip.Made a quick rough edit with both cameras, exported to Quicktime, compressed it at 150 min. compression (because the final wedding video will be 140 min.), then burned in DVDSP. Everything looks great! So now I'm assuming there must be something going on within my FCPX settings.

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Jul 15, 2013 8:22 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom,

The only option in the VX2100 is to shoot 16x9 which only puts a black bar at the top and bottom on my viewfinder and keeps the image the same. There's no "anamorphic" setting that I could find.

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Tom Wolsky

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Jul 15, 2013 8:49 PM in response to larrypops

Multiple reviews I've seen going back to 2004 say this camera can shoot anamorphic widescreen and not just letterboxed. If it cannot it is utterly useless for your purposes and you may as well do it now.

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Alchroma

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Jul 15, 2013 10:34 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I belieive the VX2100 only shoots simulated 16:9 in a 4:3 frame.

An Anamorhic lens adapter may be a suggestion to keep resolution up.

Al

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