Hi
Trying desperately to get me Logic Pro 9 template to run properly in Logic Pro X and having all manner of problems.
Main one is that I cannot drag items around the Environment - when I do, they bounce off-screen, such that it's impossible to arrange my Multi instruments and environment mixer.
Anybody else seeing this?
Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6)
same issue.. i have no idea what they've done to the environment.. its not working. and why are the faders still in 9.xx graphics? please make them use the new look, its so much nicer. and get us a 32bit bridge NOW. cus as it is right now i cant really use Logic X. 😟
Hi exactly the same here. The environment is really unstable in many ways. I have the same issue with placing objects. Another issue is the with text faders the menus are full of garbage....
Thanks for the support, and glad I'm not the only one.
I'm seeing some really great stuff in Logic Pro X, but also some really flaky support for the Environment, and a few other things not thoroughly thought through or exaplained in the manual.
Would be good to get some kind of official response on issues like this, but I guess that'd be too much to ask.
Mmm.. that is bad really, but I remember getting Logic 8.0 too early and there were some unbelievable errors there - like not being able to load a file from the File menu, you know, ridiculous things that make you think nobody took any notice of taking the whole thing for a test drive, they were all so engrossed in their own bit.
I'd expect there will be a few small incremental updates pretty quickly that fix issues or put them back, that's what seems to have happened in the past and that's why I'm not going there yet.
The problem you mentioned doesn't happen for me at all.
My old Environments work fine in Logic X. All objects can be moved and text faders work perfectly.
Do you have Advanced Tools enabled in Prefs?
Maybe try repairing permissions in Disk Utility and even run DiskWarrior if you have it.
It's not a permissions or disk issue Colin - I've repaired everything and it makes no difference.
Basically if I try and drag an object around my Environment, when I let go of it it leaps about 3 screenwidths to the left or right. It makes it pretty much impossible to work in the environment. Admittedly my Environment is big and pretty complex, and uses a lot of instrument channels, Auxes and multi instruments, but it's essentially unworkable as things stand.
I'm trying to find workarounds using the Mixer window, but short of rebuilding my entire template from scratch this is going to be an increasingly big problem for people who are migrating from Logic Pro 9 or earlier. Clearly I'm not the only one with the problem, so hoppefully it'll get passed up the line and looked at.
Jules
Trailermen wrote:
It's not a permissions or disk issue Colin - I've repaired everything and it makes no difference.
Sorry to hear of such severe problems.
Have you tried opening a brand new project in Logic X, then importing Environment layers from your Template?
Maybe starting with a clean Project will help....?
Hi Colin
Good idea, but in my experience, Environment imports have never worked properly in Logic. It then also leaves you needing to recreate all your tracks from scratch and assign them to the right instruments, which is still a good few days of work.
I think it's just a GUI bug which has slipped through the net. From looking at it more closely, every thing works fine if the scroll bar is hard to the left of the screen. The further to the right you scroll, the less the GUI is able to place items correctly in the work place and the more they leap to the side (left if you drag it left, right if you drag it right). If you can keep your entire environment contained in one window you might not notice it, but my environment mixer spans a few screen widths, and as you try and move any objects around they just vanish off the viewable area and turn up hidden in the outer reaches somewhere.
I've been fooling around some more and this is what I notice:
If you try to select all objects on a layer, they snap back to the far left of the window. If you leave even one lone object, the others will move anywhere and the lone object will snap to top left.
Maybe this is an intended behaviour, but it's a bit odd. Disabling/enabling [Snap positions] in the View menu does nothing to change this.
You should definitely send feedback to Apple about this - they need as much as they can get to fix things for 10.0.1
This is not fixed in 10.0.1.
Thinking of ordering Apple Pro Audio support, but dread to think what they're going to charge for it. Am I the only one who finds it strange that a company can sell a professional software product and offer no free support?
There is an issue with the GUI i've experienced on simple projects, and can easily replicate it. All you need to do is add physical input to the mixer layer.
Drag the input control downwards, then scroll the window down, drag the input downards again - And it keeps moving far far further down the page than where you released it.
Is one of the few things which could become a pain for me.
FWIW I don't have a physical input on my mixer layer (which is where I have pretty much everything else), but still see GUI funkiness on this layer.
I'm having this problem as well, Trailermen.
I spoke with Apple Support yesterday. They've reproduced it in-house - easy to do with a clean session - and are escalating it up the chain.
I'll report back if I hear any more.
Jules
Trailermen wrote:
This is not fixed in 10.0.1.
Thinking of ordering Apple Pro Audio support, but dread to think what they're going to charge for it. Am I the only one who finds it strange that a company can sell a professional software product and offer no free support?
As you are now aware Trailermen, (from our other thread on this subject)... but also so others are aware....that are reading this thread.. You do get 90 days of Free Support with Logic Pro X
Cheers..
Logic Pro X: Environment GUI Is Broken
