Love Logic X but constant kernel panics...

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Love Logic X but constant kernel panics...

I've used my i5 MBP since April 2010 without a single kernel panic. Current configuration: ML 10.8.4, 8 GB RAM.

Never a kernel panic running FCPX, Adobe CS6, Cubase 7, DP 8, or my primary DAW- Logic 9.1.8.

After installing Logic X, kernel panics occured within 2-3 minutes when switching screen sets, toggling open/close various editors, even in a new Empty project.

I've sent a Report to Apple each and every time. Resetting PRAM seemed to help: I could use Lx for 30-45 minutes before the next system crash.

Funny thing, I used Cubases 7 all evening yesterday without a single problem... Same with DP 8 this morning.

Anyone else experiencing constant kernel panics?

Posted on Jul 20, 2013 6:45 AM

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Answer 1

Blueberry

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Jul 20, 2013 7:11 AM in response to CC#11

An application can't trigger a Kernel panic. Not possible. This is either an audio driver issue, a graphic card issue, bad RAM or something else. If you can post the kenel panic, I can probably tell. But it can't be LPX.

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Answer 2

CC#11 Author

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Jul 20, 2013 7:24 AM in response to Blueberry

Thank you for offering! I've several more if you need to review them.

FYI, I turned off Blue Tooth about 15 minutes ago having read somewhere that that might contribute to kernal panics. No kernel panics yet.

Interval Since Last Panic Report: 301 sec

Panics Since Last Report: 1

Anonymous UUID: 5AC09253-1F27-7B3E-F1EB-DEC4D5EFA847

Sat Jul 20 09:20:29 2013

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff7f96b0df1a): "GPU Panic: [<None>] 5 3 7f 0 0 0 0 3 : NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000100: CFG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0xffffffff, BAR0 0xd2000000 0xffffff8105651000 0x0a5480a2, D0, P3/4\n"@/SourceCache/AppleGraphicsControl/AppleGraphicsControl-3.4.5/src/AppleM uxControl/kext/GPUPanic.cpp:127

Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address

0xffffff81299bb710 : 0xffffff801481d626

0xffffff81299bb780 : 0xffffff7f96b0df1a

0xffffff81299bb850 : 0xffffff7f9514ef1e

0xffffff81299bb910 : 0xffffff7f9522312d

0xffffff81299bb950 : 0xffffff7f9522318e

0xffffff81299bb9c0 : 0xffffff7f954e9ed0

0xffffff81299bbaf0 : 0xffffff7f9524ba75

0xffffff81299bbb10 : 0xffffff7f95155d50

0xffffff81299bbbc0 : 0xffffff7f951537d0

0xffffff81299bbdc0 : 0xffffff7f95154845

0xffffff81299bbea0 : 0xffffff7f950f00a4

0xffffff81299bbef0 : 0xffffff7f96ad10df

0xffffff81299bbf40 : 0xffffff7f96ad01e7

0xffffff81299bbf60 : 0xffffff801483e25e

0xffffff81299bbfb0 : 0xffffff80148b3137

Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl(3.4.5)[49FEF732-D7A3-327B-A7AA-6AC5A6E3DCFF]@0 xffffff7f96b00000->0xffffff7f96b12fff

dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert(1.0.4)[1D0BB11E-7D71-34CF-ACC3-57DF01CADA 08]@0xffffff7f96afb000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f94e6d000

dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl(3.4.5)[4A2C8548-7EF1-38A9-8817-E8CB34B8DC A6]@0xffffff7f96ae7000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[A35915E8-C1B0-3C0F-81DF-5515BC9002FC]@0xfffff f7f94f86000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.7)[6C8CFC18-75F0-3DEF-86C7-CEB2C1FD6BB1]@0xff ffff7f950d9000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.7)[990D1A42-DF16-3AB9-ABC1-6A88AC142244]@0 xffffff7f95096000

com.apple.NVDAResman(8.1.2)[96AE69DE-8A37-39D0-B2D3-D8446A6AA670]@0xffffff7f950 ed000->0xffffff7f95392fff

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f94e6d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.7)[6C8CFC18-75F0-3DEF-86C7-CEB2C1FD6BB1]@0xff ffff7f950d9000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.7)[990D1A42-DF16-3AB9-ABC1-6A88AC142244]@0 xffffff7f95096000

com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(8.1.2)[988EAF3A-3318-3787-8A5A-844830FA1522]@0xffffff7 f9539e000->0xffffff7f95672fff

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(8.1.2)[96AE69DE-8A37-39D0-B2D3-D8446A6AA670]@0xffffff7f950 ed000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f94e6d000

com.apple.driver.AGPM(100.12.87)[A7004F02-7D39-3398-8BD3-729DCC404E5F]@0xffffff 7f96acf000->0xffffff7f96adefff

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f94e6d000

dependency: com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily(5.3.0d51)[2C131EAF-F74C-39D1-A702-A499B 39C293C]@0xffffff7f95a2b000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.7)[6C8CFC18-75F0-3DEF-86C7-CEB2C1FD6BB1]@0xff ffff7f950d9000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.7)[990D1A42-DF16-3AB9-ABC1-6A88AC142244]@0 xffffff7f95096000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:

12E55

Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 12.4.0: Wed May 1 17:57:12 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64

Kernel UUID: 896CB1E3-AB79-3DF1-B595-549DFFDF3D36

Kernel slide: 0x0000000014600000

Kernel text base: 0xffffff8014800000

System model name: MacBookPro6,2 (Mac-F22586C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 1161525547005

last loaded kext at 255094766948: com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.8.1 (addr 0xffffff7f956b0000, size 65536)

loaded kexts:

com.eltima.ElmediaPlayer.kext 1.58

com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.snowleopard 5.9

com.uaudio.driver.UAFWAudio 4.1.0 14624

com.uaudio.driver.UAD2System 6.5.0

com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower 1.6.6

com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.8.1

com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.1.4f2

com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0

com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60

com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver 1.0.2d2

com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.12.87

com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 122

com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 2.3.7fc4

com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.3.7fc4

com.apple.GeForce 8.1.2

com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1

com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.3.7fc4

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphics 8.1.2

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHDGraphicsFB 8.1.2

com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.10

com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup 8.1.2

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothUSBDFU 4.1.4f2

com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.1.4f2

com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.3d0

com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl 3.4.5

com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl 3.4.5

com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.6.0

com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.2.5

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com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.3d1

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 237.1

com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 3.5.5

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCardReader 3.1.7

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 237.1

com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 320.15

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 237.1

com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 3.0.1

com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1

com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1

com.apple.BootCache 34

com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404

com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.3.1

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 5.5.5

com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 615.20.17

com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.9.6

com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 3.6.1b4

com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.5.2

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 5.2.5

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 5.5.0

com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 161.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.7

com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.7

com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.5

com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8

com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.9

com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.7

com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.6

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 196.0.0

com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 4.0.39

com.apple.security.quarantine 2.1

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 196.0.0

com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.6

com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0

com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.3.7fc4

com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.8.9fc11

com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.6

com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 8.1.2

com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 86.0.4

com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.1.4f2

com.apple.NVDAResman 8.1.2

com.apple.iokit.AppleBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.1.4f2

com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.2.5

com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.3.7fc4

com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.3.7fc4

com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.4.5

com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0

com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.11d0

com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.3.0d51

com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.4

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com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.4d2

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com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 3.5.1

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com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 237.3

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 5.2.5

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 5.5.5

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 5.2.5

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 5.5.5

com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 530.4

com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.5.5

com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.0.2b1

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com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.3.1

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com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1

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com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.7.3

com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4

com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0

System Profile:

Model: MacBookPro6,2, BootROM MBP61.0057.B0F, 2 processors, Intel Core i5, 2.4 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.58f17

Graphics: Intel HD Graphics, Intel HD Graphics, Built-In, 288 MB

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, PCIe, 256 MB

Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x857F, 0x483634353155363446373036364700000000

Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1067 MHz, 0x857F, 0x483634353155363446373036364700000000

AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x93), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.17)

Bluetooth: Version 4.1.4f2 12041, 2 service, 18 devices, 1 incoming serial ports

Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1

Serial ATA Device: ST750LX003-1AC154, 750.16 GB

USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 2

USB Device: eLicenser, 0x0819, 0x0101, 0xfa140000 / 6

USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0236, 0xfa120000 / 5

USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, apple_vendor_id, 0x8403, 0xfa130000 / 4

USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 3

USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8218, 0xfa113000 / 7

USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2

USB Device: Built-in iSight, apple_vendor_id, 0x8507, 0xfd110000 / 4

USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 3

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Answer 3

Blueberry

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Jul 20, 2013 7:28 AM in response to CC#11

SourceCache/AppleGraphicsControl/AppleGraphicsControl-3.4.5/src/AppleMuxControl/ kext/GPUPanic.cpp

Your graphic driver crashed, probably when switching between internal and dedicard graphics chip. Logic Pro X now seem to use OpenGL for accelated drawing, which might explain what it didn't occur in Cubase. You can try to disabled the "Automatic graphics switching" in the Energy Saver preferences and see if that fixes it.

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Answer 4

CC#11 Author

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Jul 20, 2013 8:00 AM in response to Blueberry

Blueberry,

Thank you for your time!

Blue Tooth was not the issue as another crash just occurred.

However, I unchecked "Automatic graphics switching" as you recommended and will report back within the next day as it's now time to move on for this day.

Again, thank you.

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Answer 5

CC#11 Author

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Jul 20, 2013 10:21 AM in response to Blueberry

So much for watching the clock today.😁

Blueberry,

Thank you!!!

Unchecking "Automatic graphics switching" appears to be the solution based on a prolonged and pretty grueling work out.

I'll still report back in a few days if not sooner to confirm this.

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Answer 6

CC#11 Author

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Jul 21, 2013 7:52 AM in response to CC#11

Unfortunately, kernel panics are still occurring, less frequently but enough to make Logic X unusable on my 2010 i5 MBP 6,2 for anthing other then learning it's new features.

Replacing the mother board is out of the question. This Mac has been a stout, dependable performer up to this point, and will continue to be for other applications.

Any other thoughts or recommendations?

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Answer 7

Pancenter

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Jul 21, 2013 8:19 AM in response to CC#11

Just tossing this in from left field... that model has nvidia graphics processors... correct?

Is it possible for a kernel panic to be caused by a heat related problem?

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CC#11 Author

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Jul 21, 2013 9:43 AM in response to Pancenter

Pancenter,

Yes, the NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M.

Heat? Possibly, but it hasn't been issue to date.

I did install a second Seagate Momentus Hybrid hd via the OWC Data Doubler which has been running very smoothly over the past year during for prolonged periods of time each day, and during some hellaciously hot days.

So a logical action here would be to remove it and replace the optical burner to see if that decreases kernel panics.

I'll post back.

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Answer 9

Jul 21, 2013 10:08 AM in response to CC#11

Kernel panics are generally caused by hardware issues, so it's worth asking if you've tried running Logic on your Mac with no other external hardware connected - ie no drives, midi interfaces or audio hardware. Just run Logic like that for a test and see if you still get a KP.

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Answer 10

gen_

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Jul 21, 2013 10:45 AM in response to CC#11

CC#11 wrote:

Pancenter,

Yes, the NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M.

Heat? Possibly, but it hasn't been issue to date.

I did install a second Seagate Momentus Hybrid hd via the OWC Data Doubler which has been running very smoothly over the past year during for prolonged periods of time each day, and during some hellaciously hot days.

So a logical action here would be to remove it and replace the optical burner to see if that decreases kernel panics.

I'll post back.

I very much doubt that would do anything to allieviate your problem. The optical bay is no the other side of the Mac to your GPU, and the Unibody means that thre is pretty much no chance of any component ther save for another GPU generating enough heat to affect components on the other side of the Mac. What I would suggest is that you get a laptop cooler, they work especially well on Macs due to the aluminium shell helping transport heat away from the hardware.

A MBP using the fans hard on a hot day means lots more air travels though your vents, leaving dust inside your machine, which is great at trapping heat. After a while your Mac will simply be unable to cope with the copius amounts of dust inside them when your GPU is stressed on hot days. I have seen this before with my girlfriends 2009 MBP rendering FCP... granted, her resets were down to the CPU overheating the MBP, the root cause was still dust, and before now there wasn't much that could stress a Mac's GPU to this level other than games.

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Answer 11

Pancenter

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Jul 21, 2013 11:22 AM in response to CC#11

The only reason I mentioned a possible heat problem is Mountain Lion using considerable GPU processing and the fact that the most recent Logic graphic routines may also hit the GPU pretty hard. An easy way to tell if it's heat related make sure the back end of the laptop is propped up an inch or two and use a small table fan blowing across/underneat the machine... if it's heat related your crashes should stop then at least you'll know.

I also know the nvidea chips run hot.

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Answer 12

CC#11 Author

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Jul 21, 2013 1:00 PM in response to Pancenter

Pancenter,

Thank you for pointing out heat as a trigger for kernel panics.

I removed the OWC Data Doubler with the second internal Seagate Momentus Hybrid hd, and put the optical drive back inside of the i5 MBP.

It's been around two hours now without a kernel panic. Also, I'm not kidding, my system seems more repsonsive as in the proverbial "snappier". And a touch of the hand on the bottom of the case indicates less heat which is by no means a scientific measure.

I will post back if this changes.

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Rob,

For the past several days, at most, I've used a Yamaha/Steinberg eLicenser and the Fishman Triple Play USB wireless receiver. No external hd as my samples were on the second internal hd until today (now back in the OWC Mercury Mini enclosure).

Having said that, when initially exploring Logic X, only headphones were used, no peripherals. So I'm inclined to suspect the heat of the second internal hd was a factor.

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Gen_

Thank you for suggesting a laptop cooler. Sad to say that I never realized they existed. That item is now on my short list.

Thanks to all for your suggestions.

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