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Workflow for telecine'd film, downres to edit on older computer w/FCP

Hi folks - I wonder if someone could help me figure out how I can edit telecine'd 16mm film, which scanned in HD (the file is quicktime prores, I believe), on my older pre-HD computer, for a final output on a friend's high-end HD-friendly mac later.

It seems to me that I should be able to edit on my SD system using a lower-resolution version of the footage, and then export the whole thing to the other computer, conform the edits I made using the lower res footage with the original higher res footage, and then export as a final product.

I'm pretty sure the lab used ProRes for the telecine'd film.


Here are my specs

iMac OSX 10.5.8

1.9ghz PowerPC G5

1.5 GB DDR2 SDRAM

Final Cut Pro (studio) 6.0.6

Currently my FCP is set to ProRes 422 for the last project I edited, which was SD super 8 film.


I know it would be easier to buy a new computer but I have got funds and it seems to me that it shouldn't be that hard to do using lower-res footage.

Anyway, I appreciate your help and patience!

G

Final Cut Studio '09, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 1.9ghz PowerPC G5

Posted on Jul 20, 2013 9:36 AM

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Jul 22, 2013 12:07 PM in response to Grainy2013

I'd take the files to your friend's machine, drop them into compressor and crunch them down to anamorphic dv. DO NOT change any file names.


Take a drive with the dv, edit until you are sick of the whole thing, take the project file back to your friend's computer, open fcp. it'll tell you the files are off line. Reconnect to the high rez footage, All done.

Jul 22, 2013 12:47 PM in response to Grainy2013

You can do this, and you can do it several different ways depending your abilities and equipment and equipment. I frequently do something similar with a couple of PowerMac G5 systems we use for rough cutting.


If you're running FCP6 (FCS2) it is techically possible to cut ProRes, but the question is whether it's practical. You're going to be fighting for storage space, RAM, processor cycles and probably video card bandwidth so a little testing is in order.


First clean up the system, open a new project and import a clip of the 16mm footage as is. Look at the clip information in the Browser using list mode. If the footage is not ProRes, then you need to post back for a transcode recommendation (although it'll probably be to transcode to ProRes422.) If the footage is indeed ProRes then move forward.


Drop it on the timeline and let it auto-conform by answering Yes to the dialogue box about changing sequence settings to match the clip. Just play with this clip a bit to see how it "handles." If it will play back acceptably you may want to cut it as is.


The "downrez" option: If you fear that the footage will overwhelm your system, you can transcode the footage into a proxy format using Compressor. It sounds as if you have experience with conforming, so I won't dwell on that. You can still use ProRes, just make a preset that will create the proxy you desire.


When your edit is completed, you can simply port the folder with all your project files over to a friend's larger faster system and load up. Your FCP6 project will open in their FCP6 or FCP7 application. The conform should be a snap if your naming conventions were right.


Hope this helps!

Oct 27, 2013 7:11 PM in response to RatVega™

Hi all -- a half year later and the shoot is done, the film is telecine'd and I just finished naming each and every video and audio clip by shot/take. Anyway, I looked over your tips and I have a few followup questions before I begin.

The footage is currently on my machine as-is: ProRes 422 NTSC. My machine could handle the clips enough at half-size view for me to divide the reels into clips by shot. But it plays back in a stuttery, choppy manner even one clip at a time, so I do want to down-res for editing.

1 - Can I create a proxy while leaving the full-res footage on the same harddrive? I'm using one hard drive to edit, and another as a backup-only. The thing is the editing hard drive now only has a little over 100 G of space on it. Maybe I should clear the high-res footage off my editing hard drive?

2 - I actually do not know how to use compressor to make a proxy to edit. Any tips in that area would be much appreciated!!

I appreciate your help and patience.

best regards

Grainy

Oct 29, 2013 2:51 PM in response to Michael Grenadier

Hi Michael, yes, I'd love some help. Are you talking about media manage in Compressor? I've only used Compressor to make DVDs -- not sure how to rerig it otherwise.

My understanding is I'll need two drives, one with the original footage, and the other to be the destination drive for the proxy versions of the footage and to serve as the editing drive.

Beyond that... ?


Thanks!

G

Oct 29, 2013 3:16 PM in response to Grainy2013

Nope this is within fcp.


Make the browser active but without anything selected User uploaded file

So this will make new media at 720p (the original is 1080 24p) Both need to be the same frame rate.


Edit away and when you've finished your edit, you media manage the SEQUENCE back to your original format, and then reconnect to your full rez original footage.User uploaded file


I'd suggest you do a test of this workflow in case I've made a mistake or left something out (hard to imagine).

There may be a better way to do this, and if someone knows of one, I hope they'll speak up.

Oct 29, 2013 3:37 PM in response to Grainy2013

Assuming you haven't started to edit and that the original material is in a fcp friendly format, just create a new project and bring the material in to the project. Then media manage the project. Shouldn't matter whether it's on the same or a different hard drive as long as there is sufficent space. I suppose there might be some kind of slight difference in the duration of the process if it was reading and writing to the same drive, but can't imagine it would be very important.


As I said, do a test with just a clip or two to test the workflow.

Oct 30, 2013 8:29 AM in response to Michael Grenadier

yeah, it is. I've been looking around and it seems like it's an older dimension that dates back to when my computer was new (um... pre-intel mac). I used QT pro to make sub-clips of the original multi-reel files, might be due to the QT presets? Might be a component of my computer. Might have come that way from Alpha Cine, who did the telecine.

I'd better look at the originals when I get home before I move forward again...

thx

G

Workflow for telecine'd film, downres to edit on older computer w/FCP

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