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  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    yeah, it is. I've been looking around and it seems like it's an older dimension that dates back to when my computer was new (um... pre-intel mac). I used QT pro to make sub-clips of the original multi-reel files, might be due to the QT presets? Might be a component of my computer. Might have come that way from Alpha Cine, who did the telecine.

    I'd better look at the originals when I get home before I move forward again...

    thx

    G

  • RatVega™ Level 4 Level 4

    960 x 540 is quarter-frame 1080...  Apple has been pushing this format for iMovie & iPhoto, probably FCP X as well.  Pity they didn't go full-on 1080.

  • Michael Grenadier Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Hey Rat,  Do you have any experience working with this format in fcp?  As far as I can tell, it's not available as an easy setup or one of the sequence formats. 

  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    Hi guys -- well, I think this actually a non-issue and a mistake on my part -- looking at the original footage it is indeed 1920x1080 but when I made my sub-clips.... I used Half size" in the View menu in QTpro, and that made 960x540 turn up as the "current" footage size. Taking one of those subclips and just expanding it to "Full Size" View it's 1920x1080, and then going to half size again I notice there is a line noting full size is 1920 even while current size is 960... So! Disaster averted, I think.

    Michael I'll try your workflow using the correct settings tonight ASAP if I get the chance between hauling my kids around and general chaos.

    I appreciate your continued help and patience with this!!

    regards

    G

  • RatVega™ Level 4 Level 4

    No real experience, I just know it's a default for the iLife apps because I've had clients bring it to me, usually in H.264 format...  The only good part is that most are just looking for a DVD, so I usually down-rez it.

     

    It wouldn't amaze me if FCP X likes it.

  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Michael -- I went back in to Media Manager with my complete info and am not sure what I should be seeing in the MM window.

    In the Media section, in the "Recompress media using" dropdown, I did not see a preset for my format, which is: ProRes 422 HQ 1080x1920 23.98 fps. I create a Custom setting and was able to match it in there, but then in the main Media Manager menu, it seemed to indicate that the footage would only be compressed from 7.0 to 4.2 GB. Whereas the earlier (incorrect I think) setting got the compressed footage down to 2.5 gb.

    I am probably entering my data in the wrong areas, can you advise?

    thanks!

    G

  • Michael Grenadier Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Will review this on Monday when I go to office.  Taking the weekend OFF!

  • Michael Grenadier Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    24p is the same as 23.98 (which isn't exactly accurate either - it's reallhy 23.976 fps).  Screen shot 2013-11-04 at 8.53.56 AM.png

  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Michael, here's what I get selecting Apple ProRes 422 HQ 1920x1080 24p -- looks like the compression would make the file heavier?

     

    screencap-mediamanager.gif

  • Michael Grenadier Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    wait a second.  You were a little unclear (at least to me, or I lost track of the facts) as to what your original source format was.  Select an original  clip in FCP and hit command-9 and tell us the pixel dimensions, pixel aspect ratio and compressor (also referred to as codec).  Your original post talked about editing with lower resolution files and then conforming back to the original material.  If you're material is lower resolution than 1080, you should probably just work with that format. 

  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    Sorry for the confusion! -- I think we are talking about the same thing but to answer your questions:

    1. I opened FCP, imported one clip, and hit command-9. The results are below.  And yes I want to edit using proxy files that are lower res than the 1920x1080 originals. My computer can't play them back accurately because they are too large.

    command9.gif

  • Michael Grenadier Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    so use one of the other flavors of prores, like LT or Proxy.  But do a test on a single shot before doing all the files.

     

    You might also do them as 1280x720. The only issue with using a different pixel dimension is that you may have to revisit and stills or graphic files that you've imported.

     

    What kind of computer do you have, what kind of hard drive and how is it connected to your mac? 

  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Michael -- Ha ha, I think I got lost in the explanation but this makes sense now (I think):
    So I can go ahead and enter a similar flavor of Prores proxy in the "recompress media using" area now,
    THEN, on the return trip when I use Media Manager to move the footage back, in the Media section of the UI (referencing the screenshot you entered earlier), THAT is where it's crucial to enter my original footage specs (ProRes 422 HQ 1080x1920 23.98 fps, etc...)
    Is that correct?


    And yes, my test plan is to take two small clips, edit them together a bit, then send it back through the media manager and see the full-res results.

     

    Here are my specs:
    iMac OSX 10.5.8
    1.9ghz PowerPC G5
    1.5 GB DDR2 SDRAM
    Final Cut Pro (studio) 6.0.6
    I'm using a G-raid 1TB harddrive connected to the imac via firewire 400.

  • Michael Grenadier Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    we both got lost.  The trick is after you've edited your lo-rez version, you do another media manage to the original resolution making the clips offline and then just relink this to your original media. 

     

    Test the full workflow now, and you should be ok.

     

    Good luck.

  • Grainy2013 Level 1 Level 1

    will do tonight, thanks again Michael!!

    G