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Macbook Air 2012: intermittent, random freezes of trackpad and keyboard lasting a few seconds each

There have been a few other people to have reported this problem, but there has been no consistent solution for me on my Macbook Air 13" 2012, running 10.8.4.


What happens is this: while typing, the built-in keyboard and trackpad will suddenly lock up at the same time, randomly, intermittently, and for just a few seconds before returning to normal. This has been true through all the updates of 10.8.x since I bought the system last year.


During the freeze, one of the three behaviors occurs:


1) both keyboard and trackpad are completely unresponsive

2) both keyboard and trackpad get really slow, with high latency. Keys pressed show up much later or have to be pressed several times before registering. Trackpad is jumpy if it moves at all.

3) key gets stuck, sometimes the BACKSPACE key, which usually results in several dozen emails getting deleted or entire paragraphs, or rows and rows of the same stuck key. Pressing other keys does nothing.


I've spoken online with various other people who have the same problem and confirmed that the built-in keyboard and trackpad seem to be joined together whenever this problem strikes. You never see one freeze without the other also freezing.


Also, these commonly-recommended solutions don't work:


a) Reset PRAM. Done this many times. Does nothing.

b) Bring it in to Apple. Did this too. They replaced the keyboard and trackpad but the problem remains.

c) Clearing caches in safe mode. No improvement.

d) Removing "com.google.keystone.deamon.plist" and "com.google.keystone.agent.plist" doesn't seem to work either, even though the errors and behavior are exactly the same for me as for george.e.gonzalez in this thread: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4315898?answerId=19702976022#19702976022


These files do come back, though, thanks to Google Software Update. The keystone software appears to be part of Google Chrome, although I cannot confirm this.

e) I DO have Google Android File Transfer installed like one other person reported; they said uninstalling it fixed the problem. Unfortunately, that has not worked for me. Also, Android File Transfer is installed (same version 1.0.50.2266, same Mac OS 10.8.4) on an older 2008 Macbook, and it works fine, which points to something on just this Macbook Air as being the cause.

f) I don't use the Radio Silence firewall app--can't remove it.

g) I don't have the telldus device or whatever it is, so I don't have the "com.telldus.service.plist" to remove.

h) Completely clearing out /Library/LaunchAgents, /Library/LaunchDaemons, and /Library/StartupItems doesn't do anything.

i) Repairing permissions or repairing the volume does nothing.

j) Reinstalling the OS fresh does nothing.

k) I don't have an external trackpad, mouse, or keyboard for testing while the freezing happens, but the machine itself seems to be working, just not the built-in input devices, which are on the same USB bus.

l) Pressing ESC does not stop the key stuck situation, as it does for some people.



It feels to me like a hardware problem, not an OS problem, and it feels like a USB bus issue. I have noticed that when I insert USB flash drives, I get the same lock-up for a few seconds, something which my other Macs don't do.


I've also noticed various USB errors in the Console around the same time (same as george.e.gonzalez):


7/26/13 1:20:04.000 AM kernel[0]: AppleUSBMultitouchDriver::_deviceGetReport - DeviceRequest for reportID 0x0 returned with result 0xe000404f - retrying

7/26/13 1:20:05.000 AM kernel[0]: USBF: 844075.636 AppleUSBEHCI[0xffffff80157f1000]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0x1a, timing out! (Addr: 2, EP: 0)


But I'm not able to precisely correlate these errors to the pause.



Is anybody else having this problem that can shed more light on it than these other suggested repairs? This has been frustrating for quite a while, but I've had the stuck BACKSPACE key delete hundreds of emails on a webmail platform that I was unable to recover using Undo and out of the trash, and that's just no longer tolerable...


Thank you, thank you, thank you, if anyone can help me fix this!

MacBook Air, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Jul 26, 2013 2:27 AM

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Jul 28, 2013 3:02 AM in response to Linc Davis

That's a great idea--thanks. Sadly, the problem just happened (stuck "/" key for about 60 iterations), and there is no corresponding console message talking about MultitouchUSB or whatever...


I'm beginning to think this error doesn't get logged in the Console... It certainly doesn't show up in Activity Monitor...


I wonder if I need to film myself typing and then show the video footage to the Genius Bar, but diagnostically that's useless to them...


Here's hoping someone who's had this problem and can help finds this thread!

Jul 29, 2013 12:15 PM in response to dchang0

Further diagnostic info:


+ Removing Google's Android File Transfer and rebooting didn't help. Somebody reported that it did help them, but the lock-up just happened while Android File Transfer has been removed for a while.


+ I have confirmed that lock-ups don't happen only in Safari as some people reported. In my case, I have seen it in Terminal, Safari, Mail.app, and Finder.


+ The lock-ups don't seem to correspond to any errors in the Console after all. I can see the lock-up happen and no errors show up at all in the Console window, which I now keep running all the time.

Jul 30, 2013 5:17 PM in response to Dan Todd

Hi, Dan--


Nope, none of those four... I do have Dropbox but never installed it on this machine. The other three are services I've never signed up for.


I am basically using these apps up-front:


Mail.app, Safari, Notes, Terminal, maybe LibreOffice 4.0.x, maybe Sublime Text 2, Console.


And the freezes happen about twice a day, usually when I'm in Mail or Terminal, but that's because those are the ones where I'm typing the most and can see immediately when the freezes happen. It could be happening even more frequently while I'm browsing, but I might not know it because I'm merely reading what's on the screen.


This is a list from Activity Monitor of what I'm using right now, which is very typical of what I use all day:


407 XType.FontHelperdchang0.022.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
278 xpcddchang0.025.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
313 WebKitPluginAgentdchang0.02944 KBIntel (64 bit)
250 usernoteddchang0.024.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
233 UserEventAgentdchang0.037.6 MBIntel (64 bit)
347 Terminaldchang0.0551.3 MBIntel (64 bit)
280 tccddchang0.023.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
243 talagentdchang0.026.2 MBIntel (64 bit)
244 SystemUIServerdchang0.1326.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
4254 System Preferencesdchang0.5324.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
995 Sublime Text 2dchang0.01282.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
380 ssh-agentdchang0.033.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
4321 sshdchang0.012.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
4276 sshdchang0.012.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
335 ShareKitHelperdchang0.029.1 MBIntel (64 bit)
429 ScopedBookmarkAgentdchang0.025.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
318 Safari Web Contentdchang2.123835.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
316 Safaridchang0.217127.9 MBIntel (64 bit)
3975 QuickLookSatellite-generaldchang0.046.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
3974 Quick Look Helperdchang0.046.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
3978 QTKitServer-(3975) QuickLookSatellite-generaldchang0.023.7 MBIntel
319 QTKitServer-(318) Safari Web Contentdchang0.058.2 MBIntel
3979 QTKitMoviesValidator-(3978) QTKitServerdchang0.035.3 MBIntel
359 printtooldchang0.025.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
327 pbsdchang0.043.7 MBIntel (64 bit)
249 pboarddchang0.01904 KBIntel (64 bit)
254 Notification Centerdchang0.0318.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
676 Notesdchang0.0947.1 MBIntel (64 bit)
277 NetworkBrowserAgentdchang0.034.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
4156 mdworkerdchang0.0311.7 MBIntel (64 bit)
298 Maildchang0.011151.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
302 lsboxddchang0.023.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
54 loginwindowdchang0.1225.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
3589 LibreOfficedchang0.26105.9 MBIntel
230 launchddchang0.021.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
469 iTunes Helperdchang0.033.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
258 imagentdchang0.035.3 MBIntel (64 bit)
3508 Image Capture Extensiondchang0.039.7 MBIntel (64 bit)
3980 helpddchang0.022.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
270 fontddchang0.026.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
322 Flash Player (Safari Internet plug-in)dchang1.721255.7 MBIntel (64 bit)
245 Finderdchang0.1573.1 MBIntel (64 bit)
242 Dockdchang0.0343.1 MBIntel (64 bit)
234 distnoteddchang0.044.1 MBIntel (64 bit)
3550 Dashboarddchang0.0824.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
663 cookieddchang0.023.4 MBIntel (64 bit)
499 Consoledchang0.0226.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
326 com.apple.NotesMigratorServicedchang0.0210.9 MBIntel (64 bit)
4328 com.apple.iCloudHelperdchang0.035.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
685 com.apple.hiservices-xpcservicedchang0.022.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
315 com.apple.hiservices-xpcservicedchang0.022.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
279 com.apple.dock.extradchang0.0213.9 MBIntel (64 bit)
320 com.apple.audio.SandboxHelperdchang0.022.6 MBIntel (64 bit)
3976 com.apple.audio.SandboxHelperdchang0.022.6 MBIntel (64 bit)
3977 com.apple.audio.ComponentHelperdchang0.022.7 MBIntel (64 bit)
321 com.apple.audio.ComponentHelperdchang0.022.9 MBIntel (64 bit)
236 cfprefsddchang0.0411.6 MBIntel (64 bit)
262 CalendarAgentdchang0.0622.5 MBIntel (64 bit)
4318 bashdchang0.011.2 MBIntel (64 bit)
4121 bashdchang0.011.2 MBIntel (64 bit)
329 AppleSpell.servicedchang0.0214.8 MBIntel (64 bit)
261 AppleIDAuthAgentdchang0.032.0 MBIntel (64 bit)
4330 Activity Monitordchang2.5517.9 MBIntel (64 bit)
272 accountsddchang0.023.5 MBIntel (64 bit)


At this time, the only thing generating errors in the console log is the now-famous "coreaudiod[246]: Enabled automatic stack shots because audio IO is inactive" error that is considered normal behavior...

Jul 30, 2013 8:57 PM in response to Dan Todd

Thanks very much, Dan. As you can probably tell here, I'm at my wit's end with this problem. Any help is like a life preserver to a drowning person...


BTW, LibreOffice doesn't run but occasionally when I have to work on spreadsheets; the keyboard+trackpad freezes have occurred plenty of times without it running.


Flash is pretty much running all the time, as I have a few webapps in Flash that I use for keeping track of my time while I work on the Macbook Air. But I've got Flash running on my 2008 Macbook Unibody without these key freezes (same versions of everything, pretty much, but with waaay more software installed on the 2008 MBU) and there's been no trouble over there... Too bad it's so slow--I'd carry that as my daily laptop.

Jul 30, 2013 10:28 PM in response to dchang0

Please read this whole message before doing anything.


This procedure is a test, not a solution. Don’t be disappointed when you find that nothing has changed after you complete it.


Step 1


The purpose of this step is to determine whether the problem is localized to your user account.


Enable guest logins* and log in as Guest. Don't use the Safari-only “Guest User” login created by “Find My Mac.”


While logged in as Guest, you won’t have access to any of your personal files or settings. Applications will behave as if you were running them for the first time. Don’t be alarmed by this; it’s normal. If you need any passwords or other personal data in order to complete the test, memorize, print, or write them down before you begin.


Test while logged in as Guest. Same problem?


After testing, log out of the guest account and, in your own account, disable it if you wish. Any files you created in the guest account will be deleted automatically when you log out of it.


*Note: If you’ve activated “Find My Mac” or FileVault, then you can’t enable the Guest account. The “Guest User” login created by “Find My Mac” is not the same. Create a new account in which to test, and delete it, including its home folder, after testing.


Step 2


The purpose of this step is to determine whether the problem is caused by third-party system modifications that load automatically at startup or login, by a peripheral device, or by corruption of certain system caches.


Disconnect all wired peripherals except those needed for the test, and remove all aftermarket expansion cards. Boot in safe mode and log in to the account with the problem. Note: If FileVault is enabled, or if a firmware password is set, or if the boot volume is a software RAID, you can’t do this. Ask for further instructions.


Safe mode is much slower to boot and run than normal, and some things won’t work at all, including sound output and Wi-Fi on certain iMacs. The next normal boot may also be somewhat slow.


The login screen appears even if you usually log in automatically. You must know your login password in order to log in. If you’ve forgotten the password, you will need to reset it before you begin.


Test while in safe mode. Same problem?


After testing, reboot as usual (i.e., not in safe mode) and verify that you still have the problem. Post the results of steps 1 and 2.

Jul 30, 2013 10:37 PM in response to Linc Davis

I get the gist of what you're going after. The toughie is that since the problem is so intermittent, it typically takes hours of continual use to encounter it, and the only way I'd be on my MBA for hours is if I'm really using it, and the only way I could really use it is in "normal" mode, with full access to my apps and settings.


But I guess there's nothing to do now but cross more stuff off the list, diagnostically.


I wish I had installed Windows on Boot Camp on this MBA. Somebody did report having the same problem even in Windows, which definitely rules out any Mac OS X user-profile-related or extension-related problems.


But I have no desire to buy and load Windows. LINUX, however, is still useful for work...


Anyway, I'll give your suggestion a go and get back to you in a few days.


Thanks, Linc.

Macbook Air 2012: intermittent, random freezes of trackpad and keyboard lasting a few seconds each

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