Port forwarding for LaCie NAS on AirPort Express

Can you try just for an experiment to move the NAS to the Extreme. Does it work there??

What is the main modem and what is the router in the network??

You should not need to open ports in local lan.. no ports are forwarded except though NAT routers.. only the NAT router WAN to LAN is relevant.. outgoing connections are always allowed unless the firewall is set to high level in the router.. not the apple router of course because there is no access to the firewall. But almost all other devices have firewalls.. also the devices in the network can block ports via firewalls although this is unusual.

And what version is the Express and Extreme.. are these the latest models of both..

There is a good chance FTP is broken.. that might also affect SFTP. Depending on your setup it can be difficult.

I wish I could plug the NAS directly into the Extreme, but all the Ethernet ports are unfortunately used for desktop computer connections. Both the Express and Extreme are the most recent versions, and the Extreme is the only device physically wired to the modem, which is a Motorola SurfBoard.

Unplug one computer and plug in the NAS.. this is for testing purposes.. You need to see if the Local Lan can access the NAS via whatever protocols you are using.. The only way to do that is testing on the main router directly.

And I am assuming the Extreme is running DHCP + NAT mode??

Long term just buy a 5 or 8 port gigabit switch.. it is far better to have the NAS plugged in by ethernet.. you do not want NAS access over wireless.

If you cannot access the NAS on the extreme you will never be able to access it on the Express.. that is why this test is important.. on the other hand if the NAS is fine on the Extreme but fails on the Express then the wireless bridge is not "transparent"

What do you mean about the FTP being broken?

FTP will not work through the new extreme no matter what you do.. it is broken. Apple do forget to test things.. FTP is not relevant to any Apple protocol.. so it is on the back of the list.. !! (or maybe not on the list at all).

Note.. I am sure this is true of 7.6.3 but not sure if this also relates to 7.7.x but I suspect it does.

Just to make sure I understand the situation..

You have a new AC model extreme?? Running 7.7.1?

Are these the correct things to be doing? I've included screenshots of both the NAS port errors as well as an example of a port entry in the AirPort utility.

Your port forwarding looks fine..

This is pedantic but can you change the variable name.. eg.

Harrison HTTPS

I know will fail in most routers.. the space being illegal.. I know apple have this strange naming convention.. but it just gives me the heabie jeabies when I see it. You can call it HHTTPS for example .. anything but no spaces and pure alphanumeric.

BTW you never need block out a private IP address.. it is not routable.. I can tell you my computer is here.

MacProie-5 Information Status: Active Type: Generic Device Connected To: ethport1 (Ethernet) Addressing Physical Address: 00:1f:f3:bd:58:52 IP Address Assignment: DHCP IP Address: 192.168.2.103 Always use the same IP address: Yes DHCP Lease Time: Infinite Connection Sharing There is no game or service assigned to this device.

There is absolutely no way you can connect to 192.168.2.103 or 10.0.1.101 or whatever private IP is.

When hovering over the red buttons, it reads "Port # is already in use on your router, or your router is not compatible with the UPnP-IGD/NAT-PMP protocol"

Your last few lines are the most distressing..

Lacie being a more Mac orientated product has included NAT-PMP protocol in the NAS to open the required ports.. automatically in an apple router.. that means it should be able to work without intervention.

Ports cannot be opened if they are already allocated. which is what the error message means.. already in use.. they are in use because you allocated them..

I suggest you reset to factory the AE.. start up a single computer.. leave everything else off.. Do a basic setup of the AE just to get you network and internet access.. Then power up the NAS .. and see if it can open those ports automagically.. If not then the AE is simply not going to work at this firmware level.

BTW.. there is no doubt the 6.3.1 utility on Mac is problematic.. Apparently the iOS one is much better.. or even 5.6.1 utility on a windows PC. If you have an iphone/ipad use the airport utility app and do the setup from there.. rather than a mac.. it has more chances of working.. maybe.

You have an express.. this sounds odd but please change the firmware in the express back to 7.6.1 (I don't use express so I know less about them). Set it up as router in place of the extreme.. and try the NAS again.. you might need to buy a switch to do all this. But it should work if you do it via the iOS device.. well worth a try too and see if the earlier firmware can auto allocate ports via the NAT-PMP or even if that fails by manually allocating them.

Or the other choice is a non apple router for now.. and put the Extreme in bridge .. ie take away all NAT responsibility from it .. use your non-apple router firstly try by upnp and then manually forward the ports if you have to..

Hope something in there helps.

I have a similar setup, Lacie 5Big PRO NAS connected to a Airport Extreme, and got everything up and running. You need to remap the already taken ports. I have red status dots but it workes anyway.

I hope it helps.