13 Replies Latest reply: Sep 27, 2015 11:32 AM by venustas
Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

I cannot drag the crop area beyond a certain size.  It's driving me crazy -- it did not used to do that!

Thanks!


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)
  • léonie Level 10 (90,714 points)

    Have you constrained the Aspect Ratio in the crop-HUD? Then try to set it to "Do not constrain" and see if that allows you all sizes for cropping.

    Bildschirmfoto 2013-08-06 um 08.04.17MESZ.PNG

  • Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

    That's the weird thing.  It already says "Do not constrain", yet it is contraining.  I did just notice that this issue only applies to certain pictures in the particular project.  Here is what it looks like.  I can't make the crop box any taller for this particular image.

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  • léonie Level 10 (90,714 points)

    Is your Aperture version the latest version 3.4.5? If not, try to update. There have been a few bugfixes in the lates releases.

     

    Also try, if you can create a a taller cropping rectangle on a different image and lift and stamp it onto your problematic image version.

    Bildschirmfoto 2013-08-06 um 08.22.40MESZ.PNG

     

    If you cannot set the crop correctly at all,your Aperture library may need repairing or your preferences file may be corrupted.

    To check if the library is the problem, export the original image and import it into a different Aperture library.Can you crop it there correctly? If yes, then repair your Aperture library. If not, remove your preferences file from your user library.

    Both are explained in this document: Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 (12,510 points)

    You cannot crop outside the Original (there is no data there).  If you have applied any "Straightening" to the Image, cropping will be confined to an area smaller than the Original.

     

    In your case, the constraint isn't being applied to the aspect ratio.  You are simply hitting the edges of your data.

  • léonie Level 10 (90,714 points)

    Kirby,

    Kirby, that was, what I thought at first too, when I saw that screenshot. Only then I remembered, that I oocasionally had problems with Aperture sometimes refusing to create elongated crop areas, even without the cropping area hitting the edges of the image. That makes it really hard to crop panos or photos of high buildings. Sometimes images keep the aspect ratio, even if you try to change it.

  • Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

    I am able to manually type in numbers to set a bigger crop area.  But I can't drag the crop box to the correct size for certain images.  I will try some of your suggestions, LeonieDF and get back with you.

  • Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

    It's not that. See my attached picture above.  I am staying within the bounds-- I want the crop to be taller.

  • Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

    Turns out there's something corrupt about that version of the image.  When I try to export the version, it fails.  But I can export the orginal, re-import it to Aperture, then I can crop normally.  However, once I straighten it then the cropping problem resumes.  So it's something about straightening (at least for this image).  A workaround is to crop first then straighten, but why?  I am on the latest Aperture, by the way.

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 (12,510 points)

    Stu Foothill wrote:

     

    It's not that. See my attached picture above.  I am staying within the bounds-- I want the crop to be taller.

    I'm not convinced.  To make the crop taller on that straightened Image you will have to make it narrower.  Aperture will not let you crop outside the bounds of the Original.

    Voila_Capture38.jpg

  • Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

    I am pulling on the bottom grab block (the one in the center of the bottom crop line) and it won't get taller.  In an unconstrained state, I should be able to indepedently make it taller and Aperture simply won't let me for this image after I straighten it.   I totally get why what you thin is happening would happen if it were contrained, but it's in "do not constrain" mode.  I just discovered another weird workaround. If I put the crob box small and in the center of the image, then I can make it full height, and then I can make it wider in a second step. 

     

    Anyway, it is some sort of bug. 

  • Stu Foothill Level 1 (0 points)

    I take it back.  You are right.  It's because I am pinning the crop box all the way flush left that it is happening.   Once I give it a slight bit of padding on the left it works as expected. 

     

    Thanks for your help!

  • Kirby Krieger Level 6 (12,510 points)

      You're welcome.

     

    Two ways to get even more precise cropping:

    - crop at 100% zoom (otherwise Aperture makes some sometimes unwanted assumptions about exactly where the crop should fall).  OTOH, cropping at 100% is cumbersome, as you can't usually see the entire crop box.

    - use the parameters in the Crop Brick to fine-tune your selection.

  • venustas Level 1 (0 points)

    The answers here are only partially correct. There is a bug that constrains cropping if you straighten. The problems is NOT going outside the boundaries of the new photo.

     

    If you want to straighten, the solution is either to crop before straightening or to turn straightening off while cropping. After cropping, turn straightening back on and the photo will re-straighten.