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Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

Issues:

 

  • Nearly all of my videos in the Aperture/iPhoto library do not show up when I select iPhoto library option in iMovie and iMovie is unable to locate them in any other way.  Sometimes the option to select the iPhoto library is completely missing.
  • iTunes does not recognize my Aperture library, and I get the following message:

 

"Your Aperture Library could not be found. Open the preferences window in Aperture and enable the preference to share previews with other applications." After reading through forums and multiple Genius Bar appointments here is most of what I have done:

 

  • Created multiple new Aperture libraries, selected them in Aperture, rebooted, switched back and forth - Note:  iTunes DID recognize the new blank libraries
  • Booted Aperture with the Command + Option keys and run all three options to repair permssions and even rebuilt the database
  • Booted Aperture with the Option key and selected the library I was using all along (this worked for someone in a forum)
  • Opened iPhoto (not Aperture) and selected an option to share photos
  • Run "Verify Disk Permissions" many times under Disk Utility
  • Run "Repair Disk Permissions" many times under Disk Utility
  • Reinstalled OSX
  • Reinstalled Aperture
  • Reinstalled iTunes
  • Reinstalled iMovie
  • Run a virus and malware scan (no issues)
  • Verified that Aperture was set to share previews and had a Genius go through all of my options to ensure they were correct in iTunes, Aperture, and iPhoto
  • Have ran "Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs" from the Command + Option + R recovery partition multiple times.  Each time it just hangs for hours, the latest attempt ran for over 24 hours before I finally stopped it.
  • Oh yes, and I found and deleted the file com.apple.iApps.plist

 

None of these things fixed either of my issues.  According the the Genius at my last appointment, now I have to call Apple Care and pay to get support.  I must have misunderstood what the Genius Bar was about when I bought my Mac and why I purchased the One to One training.  Before I call Apple Care, I was hoping someone might have run across this and can help me.

 

I asked the Genius if I now need to just create a new Aperture Library and move all of my content to it (that was the last resort for someone in a forum); however, he was concerned that even if this might work that I probably have deeper permission and/or other issues that need to be addressed and that doing so would not fix the root cause.

 

Thanks for taking the time to read through this issue.


Aperture 3
  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (77,940 points)

    Some more questions, to get a better idea of what is going on on your Mac:

    • What is your Aperture 3 version and your MacOS X version?
    • Where is your Aperture library stored? In the default location in the Pictures folder? Or on an external drive?
    • Is your Aperture library an old iPhoto Library?
    • You have repaired Disk permissions several times, but have you run the Aperture Library First Aid tools? It is peculiar, that you cannot share your main library, but other libraries. If not, try all First Aid options, see:  Repairing and Rebuilding Your Aperture Library: Aperture 3 User Manual
    • Have you tried to move your Aperture library to a different drive, formatted MacOS X Extended (Journaled)?

     

     

    You do not by any chance have File Vault enabled in the System Preferences?

     

    Regards

    Léonie

     

     

    I nearly forgot to ask: When did this all start? What did you do, before you could no longer share your library? Upgraded or installed software? Imported images? Is Aperture the only program giving trouble?

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    @leonieDF,

     

    Thanks for your reply.

     

    I'm running Aperture 3.4.5 and Mac OSX 10.8.4

    The Aperture library is stored in the default location in "Pictures"

    The Aperture library is an old iPhoto library, specifically named "Main Family Library" and Finder sees it as "Kind:  iPhoto Library"

    Yes, I have run all 3 Aperture First Aid tools more than once using the Option + Command when starting the application including rebuiding the database when the first 2 options didn't work.

    I haven't moved my library to a different drive, but if this would help I would be willing to give it a try.

    Under "Security and Privacy" it says that FileVault is turned off for my hard disc

     

    Well, I purchased my Mac in the fall of 2011 and I have never been able to access my videos through the iPhoto option in iMovie that I can remember.  I guess that this has always been a problem and was addressed many times at the Mac Store but never resolved.  In May of 2012 my machine crashed and all data I had on the drive was earased.  Since then I could periodically see my Aperture library in iMovie, but only a handfull of videos.

     

    As far as iTunes is concerned, I have only been aware of the problem for a few weeks, although it could have been there all along.  I've always had problems with photos not updating on Apple TV, even AFTER the normal shutting down Aperture and iTunes, opening them back up, turning off Home Sharing, turning it back on, etc.  When I recently tried to address this I tried selecting the option in iTunes to share my Aperture library instead of selecting the iPhoto library option.  That's when I became aware of the problem with iTunes not recognizing the Aperture library.  The Geniuses surmised that because I was also having so many problems with accessing my Aperture library in iMovie, that the issue was the Library and/or permissions.

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    @leonieDF - Not sure what your reply means.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (77,940 points)

    Sorry,

    my previous pos was interrupted by "We'll be back soon".

     

    Well, I purchased my Mac in the fall of 2011 and I have never been able to access my videos through the iPhoto option in iMovie that I can remember.

    What is the format of your videos? Not all video formats, that Quicktime can display, are supported by Aperture, i.e., not all framerates and sizes. A list, of what at least should be supported is here:

     

    Aperture 3: About Video and Audio formats in Aperture

     

    In May of 2012 my machine crashed and all data I had on the drive was earased.  Since then I could periodically see my Aperture library in iMovie, but only a handfull of videos.

     

    If you made a clean-install after the crash, you may have not reinstalled all video codecs, that you previously had.P erian, Flip-4-Mac.

     

    Are your videos referenced or managed? Referenced videos will not show in the Media Browser.

     

    Yes, I have run all 3 Aperture First Aid tools more than once using the Option + Command when starting the application including rebuiding the database when the first 2 options didn't work.

     

    In your previous post you said, that you run the Disk Utility repair options as well.  That is good for system library repairs, but not optimal for Aperture Libraries. Have you run the Aperture Library First Aid after you did the Disk Utility Repair? If not, give Aperture's permission repair another try.

     

     

    The Aperture library is an old iPhoto library, specifically named "Main Family Library" and Finder sees it as "Kind:  iPhoto Library"

     

    Sharing an Aperture Library with the kind " iPhoto Library" is a bit complicated and not well documented. By experimenting I found, that an iPhoto Library used as an Aperture library will be accessible in the iPhoto section of the Media Browser, but not in the Aperture section. And it helps, to openthe library once in iPhoto before accessing ot in iTunes, iMovie, or Mail.

    Your experiments seem to confirm that. You can access new Aperture libraries "Kind Aperture Library" without problems.

     

    If you want to convert your Aperture/iPhoto library to "Kind =Aperture", create a new, empty Aperture library and import the previous library into this new library (File > Import > Library). That should change the "KInd".

    Only importing will need a lot of free disk space during the conversion.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Understood.  I thought perhaps the period meant that I was finished and just needed to call Apple Care and fork out the fee. 

     

    The formats are primarily .MOV straight from the iPhone.  Since going to a Mac, I have pretty much given up on using my Sony Handycam for family videos due to the pains of having to locate, identify, convert, and export AVCHD video to watch on Apple TV.  It is just too easy to take video with my iPhone and import it and immediately watch it, although the quality is nothing close to a dedicated video camera, especially indoors and in lower light.  All of the video formats in Aperture are supported and most all of my older home videos and Sony Handycam videos are sitting on an external drive (hoping that one day I will have the time to figure out a decent workflow to access them after I work all of the bugs out of iMovie).  Great thought though.

     

    All my content is managed.  After a handful of One-to-One sessions at the Apple Store, I finally learned that you could not reference videos in iMovie and had to either have them in the iMovie Events directory or in iPhoto (at least that was what she said).  Their solution was to import the videos into iPhoto so they could be easily accessed in iMovie.  After I had issues mentioned in this post their solution was for me to purchase Aperture that could handle larger libraries.  This was supposed to fix the issue and allow iMovie to see my videos.  When that didn't work they said that I needed to purchase Final Cut Pro.  I'm just a Dad who wants to make a few memorable home movies for his family and I don't think that I should have to purchase a $300 application, especially after paying a premium for my Mac and the iLife software, which I am deeply regretting.  But I digress.

     

    I have repaired permissions again and am in the process of repairing the library and will rebuild it again if that doesn't work.  It is taking longer so I won't be able to post the results until a later time.  Definitely worth a shot to try this again.

     

    If this doesn't work I will take the time to create a new Aperture library.  Like I previously mentioned, this was the last resort for another gentlemen who had a similar issue.  After doing this it might explain why the "Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs" from the Command + Option + R recovery partition is getting hung up and not working.  I'll post the results at a later date.  If I could save just one person the time, gas, and stress I've experienced it would be worth it.

     

    One additional question?  I read a gentlemen's post that passionately argued against ever using iPhoto, Aperture, or iMovie to ever manage video files.  He suggested using folders and a file naming system similar to what I used when I was on a PC using Adobe Elements.  Do you have any thoughts on that? 

     

    For my situation, I have two concerns:

     

    • I'm afraid this would not allow me to watch the videos on Apple TV as simply as I can now (although I don't know this to be the case for certain).  If the videos aren't in my photo library, I'm not sure how I would be able to access them through Apple TV.
    • Since I'm a proud Dad I have hundreds of video files spanning many years, so I also don't want to lose the ability to quickly peruse my event library and find content that I want to import into a project in iMovie.  At one point I imported some video files to edit that weren't stored in iMovie, and I could only see the file name and date and had to guess if there was content on it that I wanted.  When you have hundreds of clips like I do that isn't practical.

     

    He argued that these programs were never meant to manage content and worked much more efficiently using this method.  I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts.

     

    Thanks again.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (77,940 points)

    One additional question?  I read a gentlemen's post that passionately argued against ever using iPhoto, Aperture, or iMovie to ever manage video files.  He suggested using folders and a file naming system similar to what I used when I was on a PC using Adobe Elements.  Do you have any thoughts on that?

    That is widely a matter of your preferred workflow.

    I import and store my video clips in iMovie's event library, since they all need badly clipping, adjusting, and stabilizing. Finished movies I export to my iTunes library. This way I can share them easily to my IOS devices and can view them in iTunes.

    When I want a video clip as part of a slideshow I import it from the iTunes Media Browser to Aperture and drag it into the SlideShow.

     

    One additional question?  I read a gentlemen's post that passionately argued against ever using iPhoto, Aperture, or iMovie to ever manage video files.  He suggested using folders and a file naming system similar to what I used when I was on a PC using Adobe Elements.  Do you have any thoughts on that?

    I like the way iMovie connects the event library with the movie projects; also the space saver to weed out bad clips . And I like the way, how iMovie project reference the event library, so that it is easy to revert changes in a project. It suits my needs, but I am not an ambitious movie maker. For me, iMovies management capabilities suffice.

     

    It is just too easy to take video with my iPhone and import it and immediately watch it, although the quality is nothing close to a dedicated video camera, especially indoors and in lower light.

    So your videos are mainly iPhone shots.

    They certainly should be supported.

     

    O.K. I'll wait and see, what the repair will accomplish.

     

    Good night

     

    Léonie

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Unfortunately the repair tools did not work so I'm going to try and export my library into a new library created in Aperture.  I'm going to take my time because in moving some old iPhone videos from PC to Mac in the past I lost a lot of data (mainly dates they were shot) and I can't have that happen with all of the photos currently in my library.  I'll post when I've completed this task and the results.

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (77,940 points)

    o.k.

     

    Unfortunately the repair tools did not work so I'm going to try and export my library into a new library created in Aperture.

    To be precise - you need to import your old library into the new library as library. Only that will save all dates, tags, edits,  captions, etc.  Don't export the photos and videos to a folder.

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Thanks.  Importing seemed to work okay but I'm not clear why my new Aperture library is 135 GB larger than my old one. 

     

    After I move some things around I will see if iTunes will recognize the new library and post the results. 

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (77,940 points)

    Thanks.  Importing seemed to work okay

    Good! 

     


    but I'm not clear why my new Aperture library is 135 GB larger than my old one.

    Have you changed the preferences settings for the previews?  If Aperture is now generating larger previews, the library size might grow.

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I didn't change anything but my One-to-One trainer did while tinkering with my Aperture library problem.  What do you recommend for the preview settings?  I don't remember what the original settings were before he changed them.

     

    Here are my current settings.

     

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  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (77,940 points)

    Do you want to see all your photos in other applications?

    Then the "Always" setting is o.k. The size setting will depend on how you want to use them. The usual recommendation is to set the "Size" to "Fit within ...." and then pick the largest dimension of your screen. This way the previews will look good when viewed full screen. Only, when your previous setting has been "never" then enabling previews might blow up the size of the library considerably.

     

    Your current setting "half size" is also not bad - this way the size of the preview will depend on the size of the original and have one fourth of the pixels of the originals. The disk space for the previews will be limited to one fourth of the disk space of the originals.

     

    Is that the additional amount of disk space you are seeing? About a fouth of the original library size? Then you probably had no previews previously.

  • Wanttogobacktopc Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    This is very strange.  Looking at this again I definitely had Share Previews set to "Always" but I had Photo Preview set to "Don't Limit."  My library should be smaller now, not larger with the Photo Preview set to "Half Size."

     

    My new library is 37.6% larger than my old one.

     

    I'm at a loss.

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