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FCPX compatible with Adobe Prelude and Adobe Speed Grade ?

Hi all experts,


Recently, I met a video editor who uses Permiere Pro.


He said he imported/ingest all his clips using Adobe Prelude then export to Premiere Pro.


And after Premiere export the movies out, he sent it to Adobe Speed Grade for color correction ?


My questions to all experts here are:


1) Is Our FCPX compatible with Adobe Prelude and Adobe Speed Grade ?


2) Why would he want to import using Adobe Prelude when he can do it in a NLE Editor ?


3) Why would he want to color correct using Adobe Speed Grade when he can do it in a NLE Editor ?


Thanks

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Posted on Aug 18, 2013 2:28 AM

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Posted on Aug 18, 2013 8:21 AM

1- Adobe Prelude adds the metadata options built-in to FCP X, so you have that covered already.


2- Speed Grade is nice, but the FCP X built-in color grading tools are as good as the PPro built-in tools. Plus there are way more, and much better free and for-pay 3rd party color grading plugins that come close to Speed Grade. Even better than Speed Grade is Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve (free version). It is way more powerful, works with FCP X really well, and is way easeir to learn than most folks think.


Ignore the advice from someone who doens't use FCP X.

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Aug 18, 2013 8:21 AM in response to RyanManUtd

1- Adobe Prelude adds the metadata options built-in to FCP X, so you have that covered already.


2- Speed Grade is nice, but the FCP X built-in color grading tools are as good as the PPro built-in tools. Plus there are way more, and much better free and for-pay 3rd party color grading plugins that come close to Speed Grade. Even better than Speed Grade is Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve (free version). It is way more powerful, works with FCP X really well, and is way easeir to learn than most folks think.


Ignore the advice from someone who doens't use FCP X.

Aug 18, 2013 9:08 AM in response to BenB

BenB wrote:


1- Adobe Prelude adds the metadata options built-in to FCP X, so you have that covered already.


Thanks Ben but I am not quite sure what you're trying to say. What exactly do you mean by "... you have that covered already" ?



BenB wrote:


2- ... Even better than Speed Grade is Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve (free version). It is way more powerful, works with FCP X really well, and is way easeir to learn than most folks think.


Is DaVinci Resolve easy to learn ? I was told it was difficult. Anyway, if were to use DaVinci Resolve, we export it to Da Vinci after we have finished with FCPX or before we start with FCPX ?


Thanks

Aug 18, 2013 9:21 AM in response to RyanManUtd

Resolve is realy easy to learn. The new version 10 about to be released will be even easier. I teach it, it really is easy to learn. You don't need to learn everything it doesn, just the basics. Ripple Training has about the best Resolve training course, check them out. You get training for everything Resolve does, but you won't need it all. Just learn the basics, it really is very easy to learn and use. Many people just get it in their heads that something is difficult without really doing it themselves.


Color grading is done after you've finished your edits.


The metadata management funcitions in Prelude are tools built-in to FCP X. Adobe saw FCPX, and copied the metadata managment into a seperate application. So what Prelude does, you can already to inside FCP X, no need for a separate application.

Aug 18, 2013 10:09 AM in response to RyanManUtd

RyanManUtd wrote:

2) Why would he want to import using Adobe Prelude when he can do it in a NLE Editor ?


Prelude is a stand alone application that allows you to prepare, log, mark up and organize raw footage prior to editing. A producer could view, add notes, marks, etc to the material before it gets handed to the editor. Prelude also includes the ability to transcode media, as well as the ability to make duplicate (back up) copies of media. Prelude can do simple, cuts-only rough cut sequences. All this information, including file locations, are stored in the Prelude project file, which can then be ingested into Premiere Pro, and appear there with the media connected and organized as reflected in the Prelude file.


When you work on a project in a collaborative environment, this is very useful.



3) Why would he want to color correct using Adobe Speed Grade when he can do it in a NLE Editor ?


Don't think of the apps as separate, exclusive workspaces. If you are not working in a collaborative environment, (where color correction, for example is handled by a different team) then a more usual workflow would be to have several of the Adobe CC apps open, switching back and forth into one or the other (using the most appropriate app for what you want to do) with Adobe Dynamic Linking keeping everything connected to your Premiere Pro timeline.


MtD

Nov 7, 2013 11:31 PM in response to RyanManUtd

It's been a while since this discussion has been active, but I have an additional question, if I may..


I originally started my edit using Premiere Pro CC because I knew I'd want to do some effects in After Effects later after I had my edit. However, I've grown to work faster/better using FCPX. So I started over in FCPX.

Now I have my edit. I would like to use Speedgrade CC (since I'm somewhat familiar with it), though I am aware there's no easy way to do this from FCPX.

I'm not opposed to Resolve, by the way.

My first question is - what is the proper pipeline? My understanding is Speedgrade is the final stop, for "finishing".

So that'd lead me to think I should go from FCPX to AE, then from AE to Speedgrade (or Resolve).

However, it'd make sense to me to first balance and grade my shots before putting on the final effects (added lens flare, Magic Bullet Looks, etc).

Or would other pros out there still suggest I add effects first, to original footage, and THEN do color grading?


Thanks for the suggestions.

FCPX compatible with Adobe Prelude and Adobe Speed Grade ?

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