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[Solved] Beachballs on late 2008 15" MacBook Pro MacBookPro5,1 with SATA II HD

Each time I upgraded hard disks in my late 2008 15" MacBook Pro ( MacBookPro5,1 ) I experienced increasing beachballs. The worst was my recent upgrade to a Seagate 1TB SSD hybrid drive.

I had lived with this pain for years and it appears a simple jumper change could have solved it. In my opinion all or at least some models of the late 2008 MacBook 15" Pros do not reliably support SATA II 3 Gbit/second.

See jumper diagram for Seagate drives. Note the diagram is showing drive laying hard disk circuit board side up. Other manufacturers may differ.

http://knowledge.seagate.com/article...language=en_US

From what I uderstand my late 2008 MacBook Pro was designed to support SATA II 3 Gbit/second with it's Nvidia chip set. In fact every model from late 2008 appears to have support for SATA II.

Then in early 2011 they added support for SATA III 6 Gbit/sec which the 1TB ST1000LM014 hybrid drive also supports. ( Hopefully they got SATA III right in their first 2011 model year. ) Unfortunately for me I do not think they got SATA II right in their first late 2008 model year.


I hope this may help someone avoid the pain I experienced,

-EdOfTheMountain


Hardware Overview:


Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,1

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo

Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache: 3 MB

Memory: 8 GB

Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz

Boot ROM Version: MBP51.007E.B06

SMC Version (system): 1.33f8

Serial Number (system): 73******1G0

Hardware UUID: ****

Sudden Motion Sensor:

State: Enabled


Serial-ATA


NVidia MCP79 AHCI:


Vendor: NVidia

Product: MCP79 AHCI

Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

Description: AHCI Version 1.20 Supported


ST1000LM014-1EJ164:


Capacity: 1 TB (1,000,204,886,016 bytes)

Model: ST1000LM014-1EJ164

Revision: SM11

Serial Number: W3804LD1

Native Command Queuing: Yes

Queue Depth: 32

Removable Media: No

Detachable Drive: No

BSD Name: disk0

Rotational Rate: 5400

Medium Type: Rotational

Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)

S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified

Volumes:

disk0s1:

Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)

BSD Name: disk0s1

Content: EFI

ST-1TB:

Capacity: 999.86 GB (999,860,912,128 bytes)

Available: 130.51 GB (130,505,502,720 bytes)

Writable: Yes

File System: Journaled HFS+

BSD Name: disk0s2

Mount Point: /

Content: Apple_HFS


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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5), Seagate 1TB hybrid ST1000LM0

Posted on Aug 19, 2013 7:13 AM

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Aug 19, 2013 8:02 AM in response to EdOfTheMountain

I should add that my symptoms after upgrading to the Seagate 1TB hybrid drive were *much* worse than annoying beachballs. There were frequent system freeze ups requiring pressing-and-holding power button for 10 seconds to recover. Typically these ocurred during heavy disk activities, for example, installing a large software package in a Parallels VM.


Once I installed the SATA drive jumper to slow it down to SATA I 1.5 Gbit/seconds I have seen zero beachballs, zero system lock ups. Performance wise I see no detectable difference.

Aug 19, 2013 8:39 AM in response to EdOfTheMountain

See Segate jumper digram below.


Diagram shows hard disk laying "upside down" with circuit board on top. A jumper is installed across the two left-most pins. Short jumpers are needed. I carefully snipped a normal jumper with a pair of side cutters to reduce the height enough so that the SATA cable connected well enough:


http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/193991en


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Aug 21, 2013 12:31 PM in response to hiperglyde

>I should buy you a drink sir!!


Please BitTorrent me a nice IPA beer past my company firewall. ;-)


I am glad it solved your problem. I had suffered for literally *years* with this problem on my late 2008 15" MacBook Pro. I updated my original Hitachi 320GB to a 500GB Hitachi 7K500, then next year to a Seagate Momentus 750GB. Each succesive upgrade increased the beachball frequency. Then finally, a few weeks ago I upgraded to a Seagate ST1000LM014 1TB hybrid SSD and things became intolerable with beachballs hanging and freezing my system every hour or so that required cycling power to recover. I kept reducing software, turning off Bluetooth, increasing fans speed, trying to eliminate what the problem was not and hope it might reveal the problem. Nothing worked until I ran accross Kempton Lam's video that mentioned the SATA HD jumper.


Unfortunately I do not think other hard drive manufactures such as Western Digital ( WD ) implement a SATA drive jumper to slow it down to SATA I 1.5 Gbit/seconds . For non-Seagate drives I am afraid MacBook Pro 2008 users could be out of luck unless the manufactures support a firmware utility to configure their drives to reduce speed to SATA I.


-Ed

Nov 18, 2013 2:48 PM in response to mikeog

Hi Mike,


I am not sure it is same issue if drive is not even recognized. But I would not give up hope. I know my late 2008 MacBookPro5,1 has this problem even though it was designed to work at SATA II 3 Gbit/second. It may be possible that your 2009 model has a similar issue.



If the jumper works for you, then please cut and paste your MacBook's Hardware Overview. It would be nice to see the Serial-ATA hardware too. Go to:

  1. Apple icon
  2. About This Mac
  3. More Info
  4. System Report



My late 2008 is:


Hardware Overview:


Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,1

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo

Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache: 3 MB

Memory: 8 GB

Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz

Boot ROM Version: MBP51.007E.B06

SMC Version (system): 1.33f8

Serial Number (system): 73******1G0

Hardware UUID: ****

Sudden Motion Sensor:

State: Enabled



Serial-ATA


NVidia MCP79 AHCI:


Vendor: NVidia

Product: MCP79 AHCI

Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

Description: AHCI Version 1.20 Supported


-Ed


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Nov 18, 2013 2:46 PM in response to EdOfTheMountain

Hi,


The jumper worked.


Got my macbook pro back with a bigger and slightly faster drive. Had to make an OS X 10.8 USB boot drive on my friends machine to restore. Apple wanted me to bring it in to a service centre but I soldiered on and figured it out.


Hope this helps.

- Mike


Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,5

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo

Processor Speed: 2.26 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache: 3 MB

Memory: 4 GB

Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz

Boot ROM Version: MBP55.00AC.B03

SMC Version (system): 1.47f2

Serial Number (system): WQ******66D

Hardware UUID: 19C6CD3E-AE3B-5F11-A517-22D8C543607F

Sudden Motion Sensor:

State: Enabled


NVidia MCP79 AHCI:


Vendor: NVidia

Product: MCP79 AHCI

Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit

Physical Interconnect: SATA

Description: AHCI Version 1.20 Supported


ST500LM000-1EJ162:


Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)

Model: ST500LM000-1EJ162

Revision: SM14

Serial Number: W3***ATW

Native Command Queuing: Yes

Queue Depth: 32

Removable Media: No

Detachable Drive: No

BSD Name: disk0

Rotational Rate: 5400

Medium Type: Rotational

Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)

S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified

Volumes:

EFI:

Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)

BSD Name: disk0s1

Content: EFI

MO's HD:

Capacity: 499.25 GB (499,248,103,424 bytes)

Available: 389.73 GB (389,725,077,504 bytes)

Writable: Yes

File System: Journaled HFS+

BSD Name: disk0s2

Mount Point: /

Content: Apple_HFS

Volume UUID: 4F052EC5-AFDD-3B80-BC6E-EEA140329FF6

Recovery HD:

Capacity: 650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)

BSD Name: disk0s3

Content: Apple_Boot

Volume UUID: 2ACE466D-7472-3259-82D6-D634E9A1B86E



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Nov 18, 2013 3:25 PM in response to mikeog

Mike,


I understood. The jumper worked. Very good news.


I have to run mine with a jumper as well. I had similar beachball problems with other upgrades of non-Seagate drives that I suspect were caused by the same problem. At least Seagate hybrids have the jumper option. Other drives do not.


I have been considering a used i7 MacBook Pros that I could populate with 16GB RAM. Hopefully this problem no longer existed in anything with an i7 and also had Thunderbolt.


Thanks for sharing your story so that others may find it someday,


-Ed

[Solved] Beachballs on late 2008 15" MacBook Pro MacBookPro5,1 with SATA II HD

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