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G5 ram/OS issues

Hi


Had problems w/ my g5 1.8 OSX 10.4.11 for a while now-- i started getting shutdowns, no restart sometimes for days then..just starts. Fan full on sometimes...til I shut down. I get the multi-language error message sometimes and other times it just goes out even after hours of use.

I cannot reinstall OSX, the dvd drive has died too. I know...great. I bought a 500 gb drive w firewire capabilities = but the adapter cable for firewire is like 40.00... ridiculous. I'm on disability. 😟


so after much mucking about like doing a bunch of things I found here ( ..PRAM, NVRAM, and OSX utilities...) during one set of maintenance I realized that half my ram is not working. I pulled the second slots out ( I have 2 x 516 and 2 x 128 {I believe} sticks...) and then swapped with the first slots ram ...both sets of ram seem to work fine in the first slots but neither works in the second dimm slots ( i am aware of the dimm pattern going center - out). Is it possible the logic board or a controller or other hardware device has failed? With all 4 sticks working it doesn't make sense that the 2nd dimm slots would fail but I guess anything is possible?


I would really like to get this mac working..I am trying to get a loan for a new imac when the haswell models come out--speculation and rumors say this month...but I need a second mac for my music mixdowns. Ideas...suggestions appreciated...thanks ( new imacs, mini's and cash also appreciated :-)

G5 1.8, Mac OS X (10.3.9), 1.5 gig RAM

Posted on Aug 26, 2013 1:22 AM

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Posted on Aug 26, 2013 8:00 AM

If you have Installer Disc which came with your G5, try Apple Hardware Test if it's a hardware problem.

Or chech RAM with system Profile(Apple menu ->> About this Mac --> More Info)

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Oct 14, 2013 6:31 PM in response to smilinpig

BD...thanks for suggestions.

this G5 is crazy.

I removed the two 512 sticks ( so I am at 512 w/ two factory sticks...) and its BEEN working great for a month or so. And now right back to intermittent crashes. I can run 'er all nite, no sweat. An hour or two...great. then out of nowhere it just bellies up in 2 minutes then restarts and runs great. I am wondering about the temp thing as it seems to run reliable when it is warmer outside. Its quite cool today and bingo, crash 2 minutes after I started.

I did copy the crash log and it mention AGP/GeForce, so i am now thinking...despite the fact the RAM doesn't work...it may be video related. Man i need this mac to work but I simply cannot put $$$ into it. I was going to drop $100 on an external dvd ( mine's no good) to reinstall the OS, and a few ram sticks ( 1 gig 27.00) but since it still crashes i don't know.

I really appreciare all the info you have supplied. I do not have a hair dryer...or heat gun, so I can't immediately try that, altho I might look into borrowing.

Thanks..i dropped the kernel panic log below, every one states uninorth AGP, GeForce, graphics IO etc etc

hmmm. Is there a way to test the graphics card w/o replacing it?

Any ideas appreciated.


Tue Jun 4 23:42:11 2013

panic(cpu 0 caller 0x00958C9C): Apparent UniNorth Hang: AGP STATUS = 0x00000006



Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x00958C9C 0x009591B0 0x00943808 0x002EC68C 0x0008C920

0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x65723C2F

Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x33871280)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x1725F3DC; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9000AE9C; R1=0xBFFEC980; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

*********



Wed Jun 5 14:22:52 2013

panic(cpu 0 caller 0x00958C9C): Apparent UniNorth Hang: AGP STATUS = 0x00000006



Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x00958C9C 0x009591B0 0x00943808 0x002EC68C 0x0008C920

0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x65723C2F

Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x33871280)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x1725F3DC; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9000AE9C; R1=0xBFFEC980; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

*********



Mon Aug 26 00:00:54 2013

panic(cpu 0 caller 0x00958C9C): Apparent UniNorth Hang: AGP STATUS = 0x00000006



Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x00958C9C 0x009593BC 0x009422EC 0x002E9A80 0x002EB94C

0x0008C248 0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x743B266C

Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x23AB8500)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x0802C000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9000AE9C; R1=0xBFFEDF80; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC



*********



Wed Dec 31 16:00:55 1969





Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000000000014 PC=0x00000000000D00CC

Latest crash info for cpu 0:

Exception state (sv=0x33360000)

PC=0x000D00CC; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000014; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x000D903C; R1=0x0CF337E0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x00B64DD0 0x0045024C 0x00442FF4 0x009A6190 0x009A9D90 0x009A9E90

0x00544FFC 0x0054522C 0x2381E184 0x2381F96C 0x00465E90 0x00B642DC 0x00B649A8 0x00B64A40

0x00B5F85C 0x002D1B8C 0x002D0A54 0x000A9714

Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass(1.4.5)@0x2381c000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.8.1)@0x463000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x53d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5)@0x43d000

com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice(1.4.9)@0x9a4000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x53d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5)@0x43d000

com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(1.5)@0x43d000

com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(1.4.9)@0x53d000

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI(2.5.9)@0xb5b000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.8.1)@0x463000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.8.1)@0x463000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x33360000)

previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...

Exception state (sv=0x1D14E280)

PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access

Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x33360000)

PC=0x000D00CC; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000014; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x000D903C; R1=0x0CF337E0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x00B64DD0 0x0045024C 0x00442FF4 0x009A6190 0x009A9D90 0x00

*********



Mon Sep 23 07:41:55 2013





Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x000000003384934E PC=0x0000000000958D3C

Latest crash info for cpu 0:

Exception state (sv=0x23106A00)

PC=0x00958D3C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x3384934E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00958D24; R1=0x0CF4BC70; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x00000000 0x0094AD34 0x002EC058 0x0008C69C 0x00029234 0x000233F8

0x000ABEAC 0x6F646544

backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFEDFA0



Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x23106A00)

previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...

Exception state (sv=0x33F4C280)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x007E4010; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x9000AE9C; R1=0xBFFEDFA0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access

Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x23106A00)

PC=0x00958D3C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x3384934E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00958D24; R1=0x0CF4BC70; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x00000000 0x0094AD34 0x002EC058 0x0008C69C 0x00029234 0x000233F8

0x000ABEAC 0x6F646544

backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFEDFA0



Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Exception state (sv=0x33F4C280)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x007E4010; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0

*********



Wed Oct 2 11:53:28 2013





Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x000000003384434E PC=0x0000000000958E14

Latest crash info for cpu 0:

Exception state (sv=0x230FD780)

PC=0x00958E14; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x3384434E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00964340; R1=0x0D0837A0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x00000000 0x00964340 0x00963DC0 0x0095F744 0x0095F9D0 0x00941CDC

0x002E9A80 0x002EB94C 0x0008C248 0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x01B163A0

backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFFE900



Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x230FD780)

previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...

Exception state (sv=0x23106C80)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0xE00CF000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9000AE9C; R1=0xBFFFE900; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access

Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x230FD780)

PC=0x00958E14; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x3384434E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00964340; R1=0x0D0837A0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x00000000 0x00964340 0x00963DC0 0x0095F744 0x0095F9D0 0x00941CDC

0x002E9A80 0x002EB94C 0x0008C248 0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x01B163A0

backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFFE900



Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000


*********



Mon Oct 14 17:53:45 2013





Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x00000000337ED34E PC=0x0000000000958E14

Latest crash info for cpu 0:

Exception state (sv=0x23A5C780)

PC=0x00958E14; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x337ED34E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0095982C; R1=0x0D0E3AE0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x0095A6C4 0x0095982C 0x00954D5C 0x00941C74 0x002E9A80 0x002EB94C

0x0008C248 0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x266C743B

backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFEDF80



Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x23A5C780)

previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...

Exception state (sv=0x23866C80)

PC=0x9000AF48; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0x1DED2000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9000AE9C; R1=0xBFFEDF80; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)



Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access

Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:

Backtrace:

0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x23A5C780)

PC=0x00958E14; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x337ED34E; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0095982C; R1=0x0D0E3AE0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x0095A6C4 0x0095982C 0x00954D5C 0x00941C74 0x002E9A80 0x002EB94C

0x0008C248 0x00029234 0x000233F8 0x000ABEAC 0x266C743B

backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFEDF80



Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

com.apple.GeForce(4.1.8)@0x936000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x5e8000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x60c000

dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(4.1.8)@0x622000

Exception state (sv=0x23866C80)

PC=0p

*********

Oct 14, 2013 7:34 PM in response to smilinpig

Great work, sounds like a Video card problem now, though becase of the temp think can't rule out the lead-free solder issue.


One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...


PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive


Reboot, test again.


If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or some USB or Firewire device, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts (Users & Groups in later OSX versions)>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.


Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.


Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...


/private/var/run/StartupItems


/Library/StartupItems


/System/Library/StartupItems


/System/Library/LaunchDaemons


/Library/LaunchDaemons

Oct 14, 2013 7:45 PM in response to BDAqua

You're the best...appreciate the help

Intersting...I did find some app in my startup after the last crash..it was on one of the crash logs...cleanmymac. and I do NOT ever remember installing it. Don't like gadgets 🙂 I took it out, searched for all of its pieces and tossed them too.

I'll safe boot altho I have done that in the past but I didnt do the drive maintenance. I wish I could get the dvd to load so I could repair it. I tried to put a G4 drive in as a second drive to try and install my OSX disc but the connections are different. Love it when they change sutff ( ADB, PCI, SCSI...should I go on??? Intel?? )

Thanks..a lot

Gene

Also remember seeing Quartz in a log too..

Oct 16, 2013 10:59 PM in response to smilinpig

"Try Disk Utility


1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.

2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)

*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*

3. Click the First Aid tab.

4. Select your Mac OS X volume.

5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214


Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.


(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)


Tough without the Install disc, but some things to try...


Does it boot to Single User Mode, CMD+s keys at bootup, if so try...


/sbin/fsck -fy


Repeat until it shows no errors fixed.


(Space between fsck AND -fy imoprtant).


Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility and fsck...


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214


Just recently I ran into a problem when I tried to Verify my hard disk and when it tried to verify the catalog, it responded "Invalid sibling link." Repair Disk didn't work. I searched the web and Apple's site, and couldn't find anything useful except to buy DiskWarrior or reformat the drive. Knowing that OS X is built on Unix gave me a few clues on how to proceed. The solution is pretty simple:

  1. Boot off the OS X CD (reboot, hold C while booting).
  2. The installer will load up, go to Utilities in the menu and run Terminal.
  3. Type df and look for the drive that has your Mac system mounted---you'll have to unmount this. On my MacBook Pro, it was /dev/disk0s2.
  4. Type umount /dev/disk0s2, replacing disk0s2 with whatever disk your OS lives on.
  5. Type fsck_hfs -r /dev/disk0s2. If you umounted the wrong thing, it will complain that you can't repair a mounted drive. Go back and umount the right thing and repeat this step.

Just for fun, you might want to run another fsck_hfs on your disk (use the -f option because your drive is probably journaled). Hope this helps someone so they don't buy a program that's going to do pretty much what we did with fsck_hfs, and so they don't waste time searching for an answer to no avail. By the way, TechTool Deluxe (3.1.1) didn't find the Catalog problem for some reason (you'll have this on a CD if you have AppleCare), which is why I resorted to fsck.


http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20070204093925888

Dec 4, 2013 6:27 PM in response to BDAqua

Well...I finally invoked the ultimate solution. I bought a new iMac :-) This is my first message.


Still using the g5 but its gotten incredibly flaky. I can only think the geforce video card is the problem but having RAM issues too makes me also wonder if the logic board is dying or has issues.


I really would like to get it running well enough to be able to mix to it ( I'm a musician...) because my G3 is also giving me headaches. Plus I can use the optical on the G5 for I/O.....If I were rich I'd have it looked at but I'm not even poor....I think I'm below that. I saved for the iMac for 4 years plus scholarship money.

AnywayI will scheck out your suggestions...I missed them somehow, but I am extremely appreciative of your help, and knowledge. Thank You...


Now I have to find out the best way to backup...Time Machine or drag and drop??

G5 ram/OS issues

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