HT203516: Get help creating an iCloud backup
Learn about Get help creating an iCloud backup
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Aug 31, 2013 7:18 AM in response to hamedfromalexandriaby fromsouth,The iphone that you owe (3G) is not compatible with the cloud, so if the problem with that, you may want to troubleshoot itunes and computer. If the iphone 4 is not backing up try to reduce size of the first backup by turning off all options described in that article below. If backup is successful, try to turn those on in groups of few, and backup in steps.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4847
in that article go to "backup" and then to "applictions to backup".