Apple Pro Speakers and MacBook Pro

I just upgraded from an iMac to the MacBook Pro. A lot of what I do involves iTunes and I find the built in speakers are not up to my standards.

So I tried to connect the Apple Pro Speakers that came with my iMac. According to the MBP manual I can add speakers. Unfortunately, the Apple Pro Speaker connection has a metal collar around the plug-in (forgive my lack of knowing what these parts are called). It cannot be removed. And it does not fit in the connection port.

I was told by one Mac repair store in my neighborhood to get the Griffin iFire. It adapts the connectors. Unfortunately, again, Griffin no longer makes this adaptor. Prices on eBay go for more than new speakers.

Any suggestions on how to adapt my Apple Pro Speakers and have them work with my MBP.

Thanks.

Debbie
(who hopes this is the right forum for this question)

MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Posted on Jun 20, 2006 11:19 AM

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Jun 20, 2006 12:10 PM in response to Deborah Dardick

Sorry, but there's no way to adapt the Pro speakers to your system other than with the iFire or the older Griffin PowerWave, both of which have been discontinued. It's more than just the connectors; the Pro speakers used a special digital amplifer Apple included only in a few Mac models, so attempts to convert the connector by some means not only wouldn't work, it would risk damage to your system.

Given the expense and hassle of trying to find either an iFire or PowerWave used at a reasonable price, it would probably be better to just get another set of speakers.

Jun 20, 2006 12:52 PM in response to Deborah Dardick

I wouldn't give up too quickly.

Take a look at this.

http://www.mac-pro.com/s.nl/it.A/id.3100/.f?sc=2&category=41

Also, you could perhaps get a headphone extender cable from radio shack or elsewhere - try headphone extender cable in froogle

grado are a good brand, but you want the shortest cable you cab find,

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manufacturer/grado/grado-headphone-extension-c able-15ft.php

or if you can find an adapter that does the same thing without the cable in between ( would be cheap)

Lastly, if the metal collar doesn't serve any function you could cut it off - or cut the plug off the end and replace it with a new one - it's only 2 wires - but you potentially lose some structural integrity - it's not hard though and cheap - radio shack sells the bits.

Best of luck.

Jun 20, 2006 1:52 PM in response to Rajesh Sharma

$40 bucks would go a long way towards a new set of powered speakers, maybe even with a subwoofer, so decide if you need to get the older speakers working because they look cool, or if you want to spend your money on new ones, I bought a set of altec lansing , there are dozens of sets in the 25-50 dollar price range http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010370060+4025&Submit=ENE&SubCa tegory=60

Jun 20, 2006 2:16 PM in response to Deborah Dardick

First of all, i've noticed that the speaker jack for my speakers never goes in all the way. it goes in part of the way, then won't go in any further. They still work perfectly with iTunes, though, which makes me think that Apple didn't make the audio output jack (the place where you put the speakers) deep enough.

If all you need to do is find an adapter, go to RadioShack, show them the speakers, and ask them. They usually have a pretty large selection of adapters, and will probably have the one that you need. If you can't find anything there that fits, then you should probably go to the apple store and ask them about it (assuming that thats not what you meant by "Mac repair store"). From your description, it sounds like your speakers have an RCA plug, and you need to get something that converts it to a stereo jack plug, in which case, what you're looking for should look something like this (you could also buy it from there, but I personally trust radioshack more).

Jun 20, 2006 2:37 PM in response to varjak paw

Thanks Dave,

You make some good points. But...

I think you're correct about cutting off the adapter and replacing it, but as I understand it the Pro speakers are just normal analogue audio speakers with a 2.5mm or Apple proprietary plug on the end, but without the sensitivity to allow them to be powered directly from the headphone port - hence the need for an amplifier - either on board a imac through an audio card or by way of griffin ifire getting power from the firewire port. There isn't any special circuitry on the speakers themselves, they just need more power than most small speakers.

So whilst I agree that cutting off the jack will not work and just plugging in with an adapter will not provide enough power to drive the speakers, I would have thought that plugging the pro speakers to a 2.5 to 3.5 mm converter and then into an amplifier would be fine.

It doesn't appear that the griffin ifire is doing anything other than amplifying an analogue signal to power the speakers and sporting a 2.5mm socket for the speakers to plug into.

Anyway, given the cost it's pretty academic. It seems that they are analogue speakers requiring an amplified input and sporting a slightly non standard jack - the boostaroo I suggested would work if they were plugged in as it offers an amplified signal but it's battery powered.

Cheers.

Jun 21, 2006 7:23 AM in response to Rajesh Sharma

as I understand it the Pro speakers are just normal analogue audio speakers with a 2.5mm or Apple proprietary plug on the end, but without the sensitivity to allow them to be powered directly from the headphone port - hence the need for an amplifier - either on board a imac through an audio card or by way of griffin ifire getting power from the firewire port.

You could be correct, though that's the first I've heard that. But I wouldn't want to risk it. If something's not correct, it could damage the audio circuitry in the Mac, and that's not worth it for the sake of old speakers, IMHO.

Jun 21, 2006 2:26 PM in response to varjak paw

OK folks. I've read all the responses a number of times and come up with the following conclusion. I'm buying new (inexpensive) speakers to connect to my MacBook Pro. Recommendations still gratefully appreciated. Thank you Rajesh.

I will not take a chance on messing with the wiring and screwing up my new purchase. Definitely not worth the angst. Thank you Dave.

Debbie

PS. This afternoon I donated the whole kit and caboodle to a Mac using public school in my neighborhood. Except for the mouse. I'm keeping that. Track pads are good but a mouse is better.

MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Jun 22, 2006 11:08 AM in response to Deborah Dardick

I have successfully cut off the Apple Pro Speaker's jack and connected it to a mini plug. Keep in mind that part of the "trick" with the Apple Pro speakers is that is uses an amp inside the iMac G4 to amplify and drive the speakers.

To compensate you can plug it into an amp

or do what I do.

I have my iTunes audio turned all the way up combined with the software "Volume Logic" which also amplifies the signal further. Lastly, I have the Powerbook's own volume turned all the way up. It works and gives me better sound than the built in speakers and is about as loud as it is on it's own loudest setting, which is loud enough for me.

Also, please don't attempt this if you are not willing to make a mistake and render your speakers useless. I am an audio engineer and not everybody has the patience to play with wire and get them to connect adequately to create a signal.


The right speaker has:
shielding on the outside
a layer of foil
a brown wire
a yellow wire

The left speaker has:
shielding on the outside
a layer of foil
a blue wire
a white wire

Pull the foil away and when connecting these wires MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT TOUCH WIRES THAT THEY ARE NOT PURPOSELY ATTACHED TO.
Get a mini or headphones connector where the left and right wires are easily stripped and separated. I used one where the right wire is clearly red and the left is clearly white and both wires have shielding.

Make sure the stripped wires are stripped at least an inch above the shielding so there is less opportunity to touch.

Twist the shielding of all wires together and cover with electrical tape.

Twist the Brown and the Blue wires from the two speakers together and cover with electrical tape

Twist the white wire from the Apple Pro speaker together with the left (in my case white) wire connected to the mini connector, cover with electrical tape.

Twist the Yellow wire from the Apple Pro speaker together with the right (in my case red) wire connected to the mini connector, cover with electrical tape.

Jun 22, 2006 11:24 AM in response to Lydilove

Well, I have to laugh at this. Not you!!

I spent 25 years as a videotape engineer at NBC and when something went wrong I hit a button and called "Maintenance!! User uploaded file". If I still worked there, I'd probably bring the speakers in and have one of the guys rewire it. Alas, I'm there no longer.

The very thought of cutting, twisting, taping etc. brings me to a state of angst that I can't even measure.<g>

I'm starting my search for moderate priced speakers that are good for listening to my audio books. Much more calming for me.

Debbie



MacBook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)

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