iMac won't recognize midi keyboard

but according to Apple it is supposed to be class compliant which i am starting to believe is a lie.

To clarify, it's not Apple that is saying the Axiom is class compliant but M-Audio....

Anyhow, if it is is a setup mistake you are making... which is possible... or it's an issue with the Axiom itself.. either way.. as i said in my earlier post, contact M-Audio or go to their forums via the links I have already provided.. and ask for asistance

Note: You do know there are more than one version of the Axiom 49 yes? One of them requires drivers and the other is supposedly class compliant... Again see M-Audio's notes on their website in reference to the different versions..

You are misunderstanding what you are being told...

Just because the Axiom works with a PC has no bearing on if it should work with a Mac.. Different OS, Drivers, etc so believing the issue lies with your iMac is somewhat misleading in that sense...

I cannot help you with setting up the Axiom because I do not own one but i do know several people have no problems using one with OS X.... and others have a nightmare mainly because of the issues and way M-Audio designed their hardware/firmware and the changes made in OS X 10.8.x.

Again, are you sure you have the version of the Axiom that doesn't need drivers for use with OS X 10.8.x? If you have the 2nd Gen version then you must install the drivers provided on M-Audio's website... ( I linked to the drivers in my first post in this thread)

http://community.m-audio.com/m-audio/topics/axiom_49_2nd_gen_not_working_properl y_after_logic_x_install

Here is a thread relating to your apparent issue... and possible fixes for it

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5185832?answerId=22542520022#22542520022

Finally, if all else fails.. go to Logic Pro Help's website and ask your question there as I believe David Nahmani (The website Sysop and author of one of the best guides to Logic Pro) owns and uses an Axiom and should be able to assist you, if he has the time to do so...

mdee,

The drivers are not for LPX compatibility... The drivers are for 10.8.4 compatibility.... Please read octopi's previous post

Also MAudio have stated a long while ago now that they were working on beta drivers for 10.8.2 but they never materialized according to the MAudio forums.. The current set are for Lion but they do provide basic functionaility under 10.8.4...

As for threads....

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5185832?answerId=22542520022#22542520022

I should have never bought this iMac, i heard they have problems but this is ridiculous. No one has an answer for this...

Typically, I have found it to be the other way around.. More issues and problems with PCs than with Macs once you have understood the differences and how to set them up correctly....

I should also add that I have several iMacs along with a bunch of other Macs, as do my clients.. and there are no inherrant issues with them at all... in regards to the kind of issues you are describing.

In almost every case where there has been an issue, in regards to external hardware, it has always been tracked down to drivers/hardware problems because Devs have failed to program/design the drivers or hardware correctly or it has been a 'User Error' that once corrected resolves the issue

I suspect you are simply suffering from the "I've bought a Mac and now things aren't the same as on my PC" syndrome... which is very common during the initial stages of getting accustomed to a new computer and OS...

Don't worry... you will get there eventually 🙂 and then, like most people, you will never look back!

Finally, and I am simply saying this because some peole simply don't like change and/or don't end up feeling comfortable with the differences between OS X and Windows...Don't forget that if you find you prefer the Windows way of doing things, you can always Boot Camp your Mac and go back to Windows.... so you will always end up in a win win situation.

They SAY it is class compliant but there are Mac drivers for it.

Friend of mine just went over to Logic X and went from 10.6.8 to 10.8.4 to accomodate. Their Axiom didn't work. Downloaded the newest drivers from the M-Audio site and all was fine even though the latest drivers are stated at 10.7.4. Took about 2 minutes including the download.

Try it and see if it helps

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support&tab=driver&serie_ID=3&PID=69a82f1c05 4ce9890d0cfdb697641725&x=16&y=13

Hi Octopi,

Firstly, thanks for providing the OP with the direct link to the drivers.....

As for your comments... Yes, I was just reading something, somewhere else, on a 'closed' board... that said, what you have just stated..

While there are (at least?) two versions of the Axiom 49 and only the 2nd gen version owners should use the drivers.. a user there, with a first gen, tried the drivers and it worked for them....

Weird huh?

Indeed, extremely weird.

I actually said out loud at their studio "But this is class compliant.......". Whilst I went to the M-Audio site and downloaded the drivers. I didn't even bother looking anything else up, I just made the jump - Class Compliant, should just work. Not working - not truly class compliant, look for any drivers.

Didn't look beyond anything else once it immediately started working. My friend was extememly pleased and spent the first 2 hours just playing with the new synths and the appregiator.

So you are saying you plugged in the keyboard, played the keys and it is not playing notes inside LPX correct?

Have you tried a different USB cable? Have you configured the core Audio Midi settings? It the Keyboard icon inside your Utilities folder. Have you tried a different Midi controller? How do you have LPX set up? Did you choose a Software Instrument or maybe a External Midi Instrument by mistake? What are your Midi Preferences inside LPX.

I use the Axiom 61, 2nd Gen Midi Controller. MAudio has not written drivers for LPX as of yet. They are working on it. Do a search and you will find 2 other threads on this topic. The OP should not need the drivers to simply play the keyboard. Only if he wishes to use the transport controls, knobs & buttons such as MAudio's Hyperlink/DirectLink which has been discussed in the other threads.

As Art of Sound said, and I agree with you the OP SHOULD not need the drivers. However, it worked for one (and the only) instance I was involved in and Art of Sound has now read coroborating information.

We're just suggesting that the OP tries it, what do they have to lose? 2 minutes saved my friends these same hours of frustration.

One reason, and I'm guessing here, is that the codebase between 10.7.x and 10.8.x are way more similar compared to 10.6x and before. Maybe there's something in the 10.7.4 M-Audio driver that just does it for 10.8.x users.

The very definition of an issue is something that doesn't work that should and sometimes doing something you shouldn't need to do will actually solve it. Life's funny like that.

octopi wrote:

The very definition of an issue is something that doesn't work that should and sometimes doing something you shouldn't need to do will actually solve it. Life's funny like that.

I live by these words... 😉

Octopi,

One reason, and I'm guessing here, is that the codebase between 10.7.x and 10.8.x are way more similar compared to 10.6x and before. Maybe there's something in the 10.7.4 M-Audio driver that just does it for 10.8.x users.

I'm guessing... and it is but a guess but I wouldn't be surprised......

This is going to be related to the USB2 issues and the changes made by Apple to the USB2/3 libraries in Mountain LIon... that shouldn't have affected any correctly designed hardware/firmware but it seems, based on several reports from different Devs that if the Devs themselves used an older 10.4.x library and design method.. instead of the updated 10.5.x stuff when originally designing and writing the firmware for the "Class Compliant" USB2 devices, the new code by Apple to ensure compatibility with both USB2 and USB3 devices, would break the older hardware/firmware library's routines causing all kinds of issues... including, but not limited to.. crackling of Audio or failure for the device to be seen by the OS

The original MBoxes and MBox 2s.. were some of these USB2 devices that suffered badly from the 'crackling' issue for example....

NI's Audio hardware suffered from the 'not found' problem after installing Mountain Lion...

Heres an example thread about NI's issues...

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?171465-Mac-OS-10-8-Mounta in-Lion-Compatibility-Issues

Rolling back to earlier drivers fixed the issue for many until NI released corrected drivers... much in the same way you described in relation to the MAudio drivers working for you.

There is also confirmation of the original various ML issues found here;

http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/mountain-lion-mac-osx-10-8-compatib ility-information/

Have you tried contacting M-Audio as they are more likely to know and assist you?

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.support-form