Running Heroes 3 Complete in classic

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Running Heroes 3 Complete in classic

Hi,

I have a problem, when I run Heroes III in Mac OS 9.2.2 Classic, alfter some short time, it crashes... Heroes III is still activated, normally quitting it from the dock won't help, os 9 cannot be stopped.
After some force quits on heroes III it wil quit, and macos9 can be stopped.

This is very strange, because many sites say it's possible to do so. I cannot boot up in Mac OS 9 because I upgraded the CPU and it's fimware patch made os 9 not bootable (cannot boot anyway, all HDs are formatted in UFS...) I used disk images, I reinstalled OS 9 from a retail cd, did all the updates (9.2.1, 9.2.2, Qt 6.0.3) But won't work. Copied a working os 9 system folder from another mac that can boot on it, won't wort either. All other os 9 apps I have work perfectly.
Can anyone help me?

John

PowerMac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) 1.8Ghz - 1.5GB RAM - 2x80GB HD 2x 20GB HD, Mac OS X (10.4.6), USB2 with NEC chipset - ATI Radeon 9800PRO - iPod with Video. Samsung 940B

Posted on Jun 20, 2006 12:45 PM

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Answer 1

Jun 25, 2006 6:02 AM in response to John Keates

John, exactly what do many sites say it's possible to do, please?

While most things that work in pure OS 9 also work in Classic, that might depend on the exact configuration.

Ensuring nothing else is running in Classic, and hugely increasing Heroes' memory allocation, may fix it.

It might help to reset your Classic Extensions manager to Mac OS 9.2.2 Base, then relaunch Classic and reinstall Heroes… that way, nothing else should be able to interfere.

Even after that, though, the major difference is that pure 9 lets applications - and particularly games - talk directly to the hardware while Classic can talk only through X…

I don't remember hearing of a CPU and firmware update making 9 no longer bootable but if it does, Heroes probably wasn't written to take account of that, and probably won't ever be updated to, either.

If this was my Mac I'd hope I could undo the CPU change, and test it that way before spending time on something that probably doesn't meet the publisher's spec…

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Answer 2

John Keates Author

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Jun 25, 2006 7:09 AM in response to Robbie Goodwin

I just had this issue fixed, posts in Google Groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.games.strategic/browse_thread/thread /105067adc25b9ae2

If forgot this thread because nobody responded.

The CPU / Firmware upgrade is from PowerLogix, the patch cd includes an option to enable os 9 booting again. However this was not an option since the Mac OS X computer is used as a server and must be online as long as possible.

The Fix is not what you posted, I did those things at first, before searching or posting this.

The Fix is: Create a new Mac OS X account, run the not-nice-working OS 9 app from there (and do not have the other OS X account logged in - This is needed, because with the account that couldn't run the os 9 app logged in and the new created account at the same time still generates te random time crash) and it will work. Seems to be somthing with the OS X part.

Thanks for ther response anyway, now I am remembered to close this and mark it solved.

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Answer 3

Jun 25, 2006 8:18 AM in response to John Keates

Oh, OK.

If creating a new Account solved it, that suggests there was something odd about the original Account… but if there are no other symptoms, fine.

Enjoy!

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John Keates Author

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Jun 25, 2006 9:03 AM in response to Robbie Goodwin

Thanks 🙂

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