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Q: 10.8.5 puts drives to sleep... forever

Today I updated two systems to 10.8.5:  A Mac Pro (Early 2009) and a Mac Mini Server (Late 2012).

 

Prior to the update I had "Put hard drives to sleep when possible" unchecked in Energy Saver, since I use both systems constantly--and drive sleep just results in lower performance, and more wear-and-tear on the drives.

 

After 10.8.5, drives will sleep (despite the setting), then never wake up.  The drives themselves may spin up, but the OS does not see them.  E.g., Finder will give a spinning beach ball when attempting to view the drive, any app with a file open on such a drive will lock up, Terminal will hang on ls of the drive, etc.

 

This is happening on internal and external drives on both systems.

 

The only way to get the drives back is to reboot.

 

 

Given the severity of this issue, I am restoring my systems from Time Machine backups to OS X 10.8.4.

MAC MINI SERVER (LATE 2012), OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Sep 12, 2013 7:17 PM

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  • by rseward,

    rseward rseward Oct 1, 2013 2:46 PM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 1, 2013 2:46 PM in response to jobalo

    Thanks jobalo - that seems to address the sleep issue but has uncovered a different (worse) issue: Finder goes unresponsive on me.  So it seems my issue is covered by https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5306617 here's hoping that Apple ship a patch soon.

  • by lkrupp,

    lkrupp lkrupp Oct 1, 2013 3:49 PM in response to rseward
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    Oct 1, 2013 3:49 PM in response to rseward

    rseward wrote:

     

    Hi All,

     

    Useful thread, thanks, but I still can't work around the problem.

     

    If anyone can suggest new approaches I'd be happy to hear them.

     

    Sure, wait for Apple to release a fix. It's only been about a week since Apple said they were working on a supplemental update to OS X 10.8.5 for this and a couple of other issues. If you want it fixed right then wait for the official patch.

  • by lkrupp,

    lkrupp lkrupp Oct 3, 2013 6:40 PM in response to lkrupp
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    Oct 3, 2013 6:40 PM in response to lkrupp

    The supplemental update to OS X 10.8.5 was released today. I have installed it wihtout issue and, as of right now, it appears to have fixed my problem. Like others my external drives would go to sleep regardless of the Energy Saver preference panel. I was not experiencing the issue of the drives being ejected and requiring a restart to remount them.

     

    My external drives no longer go to sleep and appear to be following the Energy Saver setting.

  • by greg137,

    greg137 greg137 Oct 3, 2013 7:18 PM in response to lkrupp
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    Oct 3, 2013 7:18 PM in response to lkrupp

    Seems to have worked here too. However, I'm still getting random application crashes. Thing I'll install the 10.8.5 combo (NEVER from apple store update), apply the supplemental, clear all chaches and give it a real try.

  • by origin2000,

    origin2000 origin2000 Oct 4, 2013 10:15 AM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 4, 2013 10:15 AM in response to jobalo

    Issue now resolved with supplemental update.  Thank goodness.

  • by jobalo,

    jobalo jobalo Oct 4, 2013 10:21 AM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 4, 2013 10:21 AM in response to jobalo

    So far, the Supplemental Update is working well on my Mac Pro.

     

    Later today I will apply 10.8.5 and the Supplemental Update to my Mac Mini Server.  But not before making sure I have a clean Time Machine backup!

  • by mctape,

    mctape mctape Oct 4, 2013 10:31 AM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 4, 2013 10:31 AM in response to jobalo

    the Supplemental Update appears to have worked. phew.

  • by pfjellman,

    pfjellman pfjellman Oct 4, 2013 10:39 AM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 4, 2013 10:39 AM in response to jobalo

    Worked for me too. Thank god!

     

    And thanks to everyone in this forum. I would have lost my mind (and possibly damaged my drives) were it not for the suggestion to prevent the display from sleeping.

     

    Whew!

  • by lakospeter,

    lakospeter lakospeter Oct 4, 2013 1:07 PM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 4, 2013 1:07 PM in response to jobalo

    The update solved my problem as well, even though it was my internal system drive that kept spinning down.

  • by pfjellman,

    pfjellman pfjellman Oct 4, 2013 2:58 PM in response to jobalo
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    Oct 4, 2013 2:58 PM in response to jobalo

    I am now having issues with apps crashing as well, especially frustrating as I'm a developer and my own apps are some of the ones that are crashing, but they run fine on my 10.8.4 MacBook Air, and these are crashes I've never seen before.

     

    I am installing the Combo Update from Apple's site as we speak, and will report back once I've restarted.

  • by pfjellman,

    pfjellman pfjellman Oct 4, 2013 3:42 PM in response to pfjellman
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    Oct 4, 2013 3:42 PM in response to pfjellman

    The combo update did not fix the problem. Sigh. This is getting so very annoying. =(

     

    Greg137, did the combo update fix the crashing apps for you?

  • by greg137,

    greg137 greg137 Oct 4, 2013 4:10 PM in response to pfjellman
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    Oct 4, 2013 4:10 PM in response to pfjellman

    Hi pfjellman, not enough data yet. I've been going crazy hard on a project for the last 24 hours and can't remember if I had a crash or not. May have, but I'll report in the next few days as more time/data come in. I was getting consistent mail crashes but also interspersed with other app crashes also.

  • by labeck,

    labeck labeck Oct 4, 2013 8:36 PM in response to HenryAZ
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    Oct 4, 2013 8:36 PM in response to HenryAZ

    <blockquote>lakospeter wrote:

     

    I have this milder variant too: I have set OS X not to put the drives to sleep, but it does do that since the 10.8.5 update. When I start using the computer again, I have no problem with waking up the drives, but I'd rather keep them running constantly.

     

    I am experiencing the same issue, but in addition, it appears to be spinning down all platter drives except the boot drive (I have a second internal drive that gets spun down as well as the external ones). I have computer sleep off, display sleep set to 13 minutes, and all four checkboxes unchecked in Energy Saver settings, and pmset confirms these settings. The drives spin down when the display goes to sleep, and come back up when accessed.

     

    If I set display sleep to off, the hard drives follow that setting (hard drives do not spin down when the display does not sleep).

     

    SMC reset, PRAM reset, and Safe Boot all result in no change to this behavior.</blockquote>

     

    This describes my issue exactly, and it started directly after 10.8.5.   I have 5 total hard drives in 2010 MP, and it happens to all of them.

  • by labeck,

    labeck labeck Oct 4, 2013 9:00 PM in response to labeck
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    Oct 4, 2013 9:00 PM in response to labeck

    Just found the new update ... Applied it and hope it fixes issue.

  • by greg137,

    greg137 greg137 Oct 4, 2013 9:18 PM in response to pfjellman
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    Oct 4, 2013 9:18 PM in response to pfjellman

    Couldn't do the 10.8.5 combo once the supplement was in place. I may just have to go back and install 10.8 and then the 1085 combo plus supplement. Emergency project is done for now so maybe I can get back to looking at this again.

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