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  • orish1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Apple won't let me provide information to solve this problem (saying it's "off topic"). I think it's perfectly relevant because it gets round the technical limitation of not being able to change the font to something that everybody can recognize.

     

    The way round it is (for the human) to learn to recognize the new font. And this is what I'm suggesting you do in the meantime.

     

    I have a handout that I can send you that shows the relationship between the modern font and the standard "classic" font. Contact me via my profile and I'll send you a copy. Only a few letters look very different from their classic version; and these are the ones that you need to focus on.

     

    Some basics that might help in the meantime.

     

    • Modern fonts mimic "lazy" handwriting.
    • Thai letters are written starting from the initial loop.
    • So when you write fast, the initial loops tend to get left out – or they become strokes or blobs rather than actual loops – kind of what happens in our script in cursive handwriting.
    • This affects some letters when written lazily, particularly:
      • The starts from the bottom, so if you write it fast and don’t bother with the loop, it almost looks like our “S”. It helps to think of a snake, rearing its head as it’s about to strike.
      • The also starts from the bottom, and when written fast and lazily looks a bit like our “C” written backwards. Think of a cartoon face with a wiggly ear on the right.
    • The backwards "G" is actually the written quickly or stylistically. Very often, you will see it simply as an "O".
    • Finally, the "U" is simply the U-boat and the upside down "U" is the chicken without its beak .)

     

    Basically, the modern stylized fonts are the minimalist versions of the classic letters: everything that is unnecessary is eliminated and all that's left are the bits that identify the letter uniquely.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,990 points)

    orish1 wrote:

     

    I think it's perfectly relevant

     

    Relevance isn't the point.  Jailbreak violates the license agreement and obviously is not approrpriate for this forum.  If you want to flog that solution you have to go elsewhere.

  • jibbies Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I think you folks should be happy to know that on iOS 7.1, Apple has get rid of those modern font and changed back to Thonburi font, the font that was used on the old version of iOS (6 and below).

     

    iOS 7.1 is still in beta testing.

     

    anyway, I love the modern font and totally agree to the idea that there should an option for the user to choose between modern and classic font.

  • BangkokMark Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    It's been nearly 4 months since I posted that screenshot and my trouble. At first trying to read Sukhumvit font was like a 6 year old trying to read cursive. Now, after being forced immersed in this font on my phone for 4 months I have a good grasp on it. I just kept my phone language and region settings to Thai. I was forced to learn it this way. So before I was like a 6 year old; now I'm about a 9 year old who can score a "B" or "C" on a cursive test. I would still rather have the option to switch back and forth. Also I cannot find the new sukhumvit font on Pages or on my MacBook. I was hoping to make some flash cards. I found a lot of Thai font files I added to my Mac, but none that were exactly the same as this iOS7 font

  • Mac Bakewell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm not happy to know that iOS 7.1 will revert back to Thonburi. Just as with Roman alphabets, real-world Thai script employs a broad range of typefaces, and those without heads are so common as to be roughly equivalent to sans-serif in Roman fonts.

     

    Me, I have at least 100 Thai fonts on my Mac and think that Thonburi, while serviceable, is one of the least inspired ever. As for iOS 7, Sukhumvit seems a good fit and I find it at least as easy to read as Thonburi.

     

    But that's just me and I do agree that at least one user choice, as in serif or sans-serif, would be fair.

  • nuch0337 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    There is no doubt that Sukhumvit font is prettier, but the smaller font size also raises difficulty on reading it.

    I'm thai, using iPhone 5, i couldn't read thai on my iPhone since last year. Not only my eyesight problem, but it's really very small. I love iPhone when I started to use iPhone 4, so I'll capture the screen every time that I want to read Thai. There is no problem on English & Chinese fonts.

    I hope that the problem of Thai font size would be solved 'coz I really love iPhone and want to continue using it.

     

    LittleCat

  • BangkokMark Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I wish I never complained about the new font. I was disappointed when I posted back in October because I couldn't read the modern font. Now I just installed the current update and found that the font was reverted back to the traditional style. Over the last few months of being immersed in the new font I picked it up and was able to read it without a problem and evolved into really liking it. It's very beneficial to know that font as you see it everywhere in Thailand. My iPhone actually forced me to learn something that I needed to learn. Now I wish I had it back again. 

  • Mac Bakewell Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yep. The headless Sukhumvit has all the information anyone familiar with Thai should need. Additionally, its spare look allows for more whitespace resulting in a less cluttered appearance. Of course the style also fits nicely with the rest of iOS 7.

     

    Please count me as one who much prefers Sukumvit to Thonbri, especially on my iPhone.

     

    In an ideal world Apple would give us both and let individual users choose their preference. IOt would also be really nice if Sukhumvit were included in (or at least available for) OS X.

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