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Oct 13, 2013 1:52 AM in response to flibbertygibbetby modular747,I'm not quite sure why you might think that I am trying to "declare ownership of the thread", but heh, never mind.
I misspoke if I implied you personally were doing that. Your posts have been a lot more rational and persuasive than most others.
I also think that you are confusing "adoption rate" and "popularity". Just because people have, misguidedly as it turns out, allowed their device to be upgraded (adoption) does NOT mean they are necessarily happy (popularity).
No, I'm not confusing them. There is no data on iOS 7 "popularity." Only time will tell, but there's no sign of any negative impact on new iPhone sales which are gaining market share. That's what floats Apple's boat.
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Oct 13, 2013 5:12 AM in response to Proteous714by Cre8tve1,Modular747 equates "...highest adoption rate..." for iOS7 as approval. Not so. Many, like me, tried the update believing that no conscious company would intentionally expose their customers to a product they won't like, and certainly not without giving them the chance to test drive it without the option of going back. Hence, the -how do I go back- discussion title.
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Oct 13, 2013 11:29 AM in response to Cre8tve1by modular747,fibbertygibbet already made the same point. See his post and my followup.
The fact is that there are no statistics showing how many are dissatisfied with iOS 7. Your perception (and mine) of "many" has no validity by itself, and neither do threads in forums like this. I doubt that you could come up with more than 50 different people posting here (even assuming that each forum ID reflects a different actual person...)
When the iOS 6 Maps "fiasco" occurred last year, there were many more clamoring to downgrade to iOS 5 . Within a week there were stories published and broadcast in all the major newspapers, TV news, blogs, and even the Apple munching sites. Apple (rightfully) was the but of jokes on late night TV and sitcom shows. There were mostly faked stories of people driving into lakes and off cliffs, blaming Maps. This went on for months, yet hardly a hiccup in iPhone sales ensued.
No such reaction is evident with iOS 7. It's hard to find any major publicity. "Many" of the people who don't like it initially, will soon get used to the look and feel and lose their animosity. You (and I) have no clue what the ultimate judgement will be.
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Oct 13, 2013 11:49 AM in response to modular747by woodmeister50,modular747 wrote:
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No such reaction is evident with iOS 7. It's hard to find any major publicity. "Many" of the people who don't like it initially, will soon get used to the look and feel and lose their animosity. You (and I) have no clue what the ultimate judgement will be.
From 9to5 Mac:
"Despite the outpour of criticism from some of iOS 7, these results show that an overwhelming amount of poll responders prefer the design of iOS 7 to iOS 6 and other previous iOS versions…"
and their numbers:
Many others that I have checked out favor iOS7 by atleast
2/3 of people polled (or more).
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Oct 13, 2013 11:48 AM in response to woodmeister50by hilary255,well i for 1 do not like it and all of the people i no wish they had not been mis led?
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Oct 13, 2013 12:10 PM in response to hilary255by modular747,hilary255 wrote:
i agree its a night mare?
well i for 1 do not like it and all of the people i no wish they had not been mis led?
Those are questions only you can answer. No one was "misled" into updating.
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Oct 13, 2013 12:13 PM in response to woodmeister50by stevejobsfan0123,1/3 of users is still a HUGE number of users dissatisfied.
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Oct 13, 2013 12:16 PM in response to viperman17by Carsten-dk,This is an open letter to the the developers at iPhone IOS 7 team.
I'm writing this letter to you, as my last hope.
I know that you get thousands of letters each day. Usually I'm never afraid, trying a new operating system. It's innovation and the way forward, but here is my problem.
We have one iPhone 4, one iPhone4s and two iPad4 (64Gb and 128GB) The IOS 7.0.2 works great on the iPads, but ***** on the phones. They have become so slowwww.
They are more ore less useless as phones. I tried to downgrade to IOS 6 but got error message, that the firmware are incompatible.
So I'm at a crossroad here. I love everything Apple, my house is filed with Apple gadget, but what you did by blocking for downgrading are unforgiving.
I will jailbreak my phone for the first time when it is possible so I can use it again, or I will sell it. I am an apple gadget freak, and before IOS 7 I would NEVER jailbreak my phone, but now it is my last hope.
Last week, my wife needed a new phone, and I bought a HTC for her, because she isn't as patience as I.
APPLE YOU JUST LOST A GOOD CUSTOMER.
Send an downgrade fix out or you will lose many more. This is so so sad.
P.s. The design iN IOS 7 are beautiful ;-)
Best regards
Carsten Moeller
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Oct 13, 2013 12:25 PM in response to stevejobsfan0123by modular747,That poll was measuring preference, not "dissatisfaction" - not the same thing. If they repeat this poll after 2 months of use you will get very different results.
You've been around a long time. What do you think the percentage of Mac users actually dissatisfied with OS X, preferring OS 9 was in 2001?
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Oct 13, 2013 12:40 PM in response to Carsten-dkby modular747,Yes, you are right that iOS 7 doesn't play well with the iPhone 4, just like iOS 4 didn't with the iPhone 3G.
Apple weighed this vs the outpouring of outrage about being "abandoned" by Apple by not providing the update for the iPhone 4 which was still for sale in 2012.
Who put the .45 to your head and forced you to update to an iOS designed for hardware 2 generations past yours? Otherwise you surely would have waited to see how it worked out for others before updating, right?
FYI: Apple iOS developers don't read this forum.
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Oct 13, 2013 12:35 PM in response to woodmeister50by christianfromhessen,It is really hard to find representative numbers, because there are many users of Apple (especially iDevices) that are not tech-savvy and don´t read websites like 9to5mac. If you search on Twitter for iOS 6 or iOS 7 a see a diffrent picture. But as i said, even there hard to get numbers.
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Oct 13, 2013 12:55 PM in response to christianfromhessenby modular747,christianfromhessen wrote:
... If you search on Twitter for iOS 6 or iOS 7 a see a diffrent picture. But as i said, even there hard to get numbers.
Tweeters were much more massively and adamantly convinced that Sunil Tripathi was the Boston Marathon bomber, even though he was probably dead at the time of the bombing. So much for the herd mentality.
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Oct 13, 2013 4:39 PM in response to viperman17by Patrick Miller2,Well, well, well. I finally figured out how to bypass ios7. I got rid of it, and the phone. Yup. I dumped Apple iphone. I wasn't happy with ios7 and instead of coming here and listing to those that seem to think I should accept it, I just got rid of it. Love my new Galaxie S3. It actually has some color to it. Not like the sun-in-you-face ios7 did. Anyway, bye bye dumpy ios7. I'll have to pay close attention to any imac upgrade. Don't want the same in-your-face changes from apple affect the other 50% loyalty I have left. It's my right and I exercised it. Anyone have a problem with that? I don't really care.
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