Q: how do i uninstall IOS7

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

 

As a shareholder, I do NOT want the company bowing to pressure from uninformed and ignorant consumers that fail to understand the legal agreements they signed or the technological ramifications of a downgrade.

Hi TJ:

You  hit on a point that i've heard from other mods but I haven't seen it elaborated and it made me curious. 

You mentioned the technological ramifications of a downgrade, and not being a heavy tech person, I'm not sure what that entails.  Is it because of app support from developers or something else?  And how would a downgrade from 7.0.x to 6.1.x differ from someone who didn't upgrade in the first place? 

In principle, I agree with you. We've all learned to trust Apple and we upgrade blindly. This time they caught us with an excellent OS with a Yogi Bear user interface. We upgraded out of trust, regretted it, and could not go back. It's hard to see and hard to read. It uses Spotlight White, Glaring Green, Invisible Ink Blue, and follows Apple's penchant for white text. At least Safari, Notes, Calendar, and others can serve as flashlight apps. If you switch to another app while you are on a phone call, there is a green bar at the top of the screen with the message, "tap here to return to call," or wording to that effect. While I was talking to a friend on the phone, he switched to another app. Because of the color combination, he couldn't see the text, let alone read it. He said, "I guess you just have to know what the green bar is for." That is not an ignorant or uninformed consumer, that is a bad UI design.

The only problem with iOS 7 is the appearance. That is, the interface between the product and the user's wallet. Apple doesn't have to allow iOS 6; it can just change the UI, and they should do it right away. As a stockholder, you should avidly urge them to do it. Especially since people who use Pages 09 professionally can't buy a new Mac. The new Pages has been "improved" by removing all the features we need and use on a daily basis. We are not ignorant and uninformed consumers, we are people need iWorks for Grownups and have been given iWorks for Toddlers.

I used to upgrade any Apple software as soon as the new version came out. Now, I'm going to be very, very careful about it. As a stockholder, you should be concerned that Apple fanbois are not opening the wallets as readily as before.

Please send a link, where to complain to apple.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

I just spoke to a very nice gentleman at Apple Corporate  Customer Relations 408-996-1010. He has been the first person who has acted like he cared about my concerns, was not condescending or patronizing and did not give me canned scripted answers from Apple.

He did remind me of the agreement and we both admitted that most people don't read the fine print.  We have become a society that trusts too much for others to be concerned of our welfare and of course look where we are as a nation.  In the big picture this is insignificant but the lesson it has taught me is iOpening    

GryphoLA, Kenneth, and others, appreciate your insights and comments,

yes, flashlight apps! That could be useful!

Oh and the customer relations person I spoke to loved the name of the eye  conditions I came up with -  iStrain and iPain!

In principle, I agree with you. We've all learned to trust Apple and we upgrade blindly. This time they caught us with an excellent OS with a Yogi Bear user interface. We upgraded out of trust, regretted it, and could not go back. It's hard to see and hard to read. It uses Spotlight White, Glaring Green, Invisible Ink Blue, and follows Apple's penchant for white text. At least Safari, Notes, Calendar, and others can serve as flashlight apps. If you switch to another app while you are on a phone call, there is a green bar at the top of the screen with the message, "tap here to return to call," or wording to that effect. While I was talking to a friend on the phone, he switched to another app. Because of the color combination, he couldn't see the text, let alone read it. He said, "I guess you just have to know what the green bar is for." That is not an ignorant or uninformed consumer, that is a bad UI design.

 

The only problem with iOS 7 is the appearance. That is, the interface between the product and the user's wallet. Apple doesn't have to allow iOS 6; it can just change the UI, and they should do it right away. As a stockholder, you should avidly urge them to do it. Especially since people who use Pages 09 professionally can't buy a new Mac. The new Pages has been "improved" by removing all the features we need and use on a daily basis. We are not ignorant and uninformed consumers, we are people need iWorks for Grownups and have been given iWorks for Toddlers.

 

I used to upgrade any Apple software as soon as the new version came out. Now, I'm going to be very, very careful about it. As a stockholder, you should be concerned that Apple fanbois are not opening the wallets as readily as before.

This is the kind of rational discussion that is needed by Apple users.

We have been using Macs since the late 80's, have purchased literally dozens and dozens of Apple products and software in that time period, and have been loyal customers—even when we were paying three times as much for our computers as Microsoft users. My wife, a professional graphic designer, shrieked when she saw the new iOS 7 interface.

Indeed, it, and a number of other Apple software products, have been increasingly reduced to what the user above calls a "toddler" market. From its video software to iWorks to the iOS 7 interface, it's as if Apple is now catering to a junior high school market rather than the professionals and businessmen who have faithfully bought their products for decades (and might I add, kept this company afloat.)

However, Apple is merely following an American trend: movies, reality tv, and "news" talk shows are all descending into the most base and unintelligent content. Why shouldn't Apple's software follow suit?

This cultural implosion will come to an end eventually. Let's hope sooner than later, although the collapse will be anything but pretty. Much like iOS 7.

Hi there! Did you try the new Keynote? I'm curious because we're using '08 at work... is it an upgrade or a downgrade?

Maquiladora wrote:

 

Hi there! Did you try the new Keynote? I'm curious because we're using '08 at work... is it an upgrade or a downgrade?

this looks like a good little overview of the changes.  I'm not a keynote user, so I'm not sure if its an up- or downgrade for you.  You might also want to check out the Keynote forums for more expert advice.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/10/23/iwork-pages-numbers-keynote-update-first -look-review/

Maquiladora wrote:

 

Hi there! Did you try the new Keynote? I'm curious because we're using '08 at work... is it an upgrade or a downgrade?

I have only played with the upgrade a little bit on my iPhone and iPad.  But so far I like it.  I just have to get past decades of using PowerPoint and how Microsoft sets up their interface.

Of course they flattened every thing out and the default font is helvetica. But it seems to work just fine.

I like the templates that are offered and I have found some others in iTunes that are really great as well. 

BTW55 wrote:

 

  In the big picture this is insignificant but the lesson it has taught me is iOpening    

Sorry, but this one's my personal favorite!!

viperman17 wrote:

 

How do I uninstall IOS7. It looks ghastly, makes my phoe look cheap. Please give us the option of the original look

I guess I must be in the minority here, but I don't have a problem with the new OS.  I turned on Bold Text and it is easy to read, and the colors Apple chose to use don't bother me.  I actually find them kind of refreshing.

It would be nice if Apple gave us a little bit more latitude on how to customize the interface, but they have their walled garden, the same as they have for their other devices and programs, so I guess we are stuck with it. I would like to be able to change the icons that don't work for me personnaly, such as the Photos icon.  I get that they are transfering the old sunflower icon to a more modern version of that using the color pallet they chose.  But I never liked the sunflower icon either.

So you're the one!  You're the one they designed iOS 7 for! Congratulations.

Thom_D wrote:

 

I guess I must be in the minority here, but I don't have a problem with the new OS.  I turned on Bold Text and it is easy to read, and the colors Apple chose to use don't bother me.  I actually find them kind of refreshing.

In this thread? Yes, you're in a minority. In the larger world of iOS users, probably not. I've yet to personally meet anyone who hated it. Yeah, some folks are neutral, like the 92 year old man I helped with his update. But in my iPhone infested real life, I've never met anyone who expressed the kind of vitriol toward it that I've seen in this thread.

I really like it. I did love the sunflower, though and miss it.

Best of luck.

Meg St._Clair wrote:

 

Thom_D wrote:

 

I guess I must be in the minority here, but I don't have a problem with the new OS.  I turned on Bold Text and it is easy to read, and the colors Apple chose to use don't bother me.  I actually find them kind of refreshing.

In this thread? Yes, you're in a minority. In the larger world of iOS users, probably not. I've yet to personally meet anyone who hated it. Yeah, some folks are neutral, like the 92 year old man I helped with his update. But in my iPhone infested real life, I've never met anyone who expressed the kind of vitriol toward it that I've seen in this thread.

 

That's interesting. It's the opposite for me. But then, my circle consists of artists: Fisher Price icons just don't cut it with this crowd, much less the stickman-like interface inside the apps. Alas, some love Picasso, other's don't. But I can't help but feel Apple expected a portion of their users to grimace—how could they not—by flattening graphics, removing shadows, icons, colors, gradients, etc. and presenting the user with a basically a white page with text. This appeals to others as "refreshing", even though it really is a large step back to the first color Palm phone interface.

Somehow, I feel the tens of millions who have no food today would also see this thread as rather ridiculous. I've only helped add to it, unfortunately.

What an elistist piece of claptrap.

Most of my friends are also architects, artists, and graphic designers, who express pleasure over the changes. It's a matter of personal preference, not taste.

To attack someone's taste is to attack them personally.