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Nov 1, 2013 5:21 AM in response to Faruk K.by hot_spur,You made your choice. As a result of that choice, you now can not go back.
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Nov 1, 2013 6:32 AM in response to hot_spurby adamdavid80,Unfortunately, Hot Spur is right. Think of it as you bought a carton of grapefruit juice when you intended to buy orange. You agreed to the software update, and it's a one way ticket. But, again, if you have Apple Care, it's worth giving a shot to see if Apple would be considerate enough to give you a replacement phone that still has iOS 6 installed. (If you can/do attempt this, tell them it's causing you optical strain/headaches, rather than you just don't like it)
Now, SHOULD poeple have had access to turn back the clock within a 24 hr period? That would have been nice, sure, especially since it IS a significant redesign - and iOS 7 - like "the leap" from the iphone 5 to the 5S - is more about the redesign than anything else (though what's good in it, is pretty **** good)
Apple SHOULD have appreciated that not everybody loves big bgright pastelly colors. Apple SHOULD have realized that the font and black type - especially for messages - was absolutely perfect as it was. And Apple has a big enough customer base these days that they COULD offer a choice between several designs (as they offer for, say, stock images for wallpaper).
That said, we all really don't have a choice but to upgrade. We want an optimal experience with our phones, and regardless if you like the aesthetics, iOS 7 is where the state-of-the-art engineering is. Again, it's an evolve or die situation.
Me, I've been looking into non-Apple options more than ever (it's also worth noting the rep at the Verizon store flat out said "no one likes it" - including customers who are trying to trade in their phone and ones who are swithcing to Android)(couple that with the reps at AppleCare being overwhelmed with calls and complaints and difficulties, and the bad press regarding battery life, eye strain, blue screen of death, etc). I'm excited to learn that iPhone 6 will probably have a larger screen (about time, guys), but I'm no longer making a straight bee line to the Apple store.
Apple is perfectly aware that they will sustain a significant customer base and makes "x" amount of sales. But slaes don't necessarily interest me. Customer satisfaction does. And we're all encountering a lot of dissatisfaction her on these forums, and elsewhere.
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Nov 1, 2013 6:57 AM in response to adamdavid80by hot_spur,Yeah, just lie to them. Be sure and tell your kids that when you want something it's okay to lie. If you can't get what you want by lying, just steal it.
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Nov 1, 2013 7:00 AM in response to hot_spurby adamdavid80,I wish I knew what you were even talking about.
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Nov 1, 2013 7:03 AM in response to adamdavid80by hot_spur,You wrote: "...tell them it's causing you optical strain/headaches, rather than you just don't like it..."
That is what I'm talking about. He made no reference to optical strain or headaches. It's flat out lying.
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Nov 1, 2013 7:24 AM in response to hot_spurby adamdavid80,You know, that's a good point. I DID make an assumption that his displeasure with iOS 7 was due to the glaring colors and the overwhleming whitespace.
That said, other than the design, I can't see what anyone WOULD have a problem with iOS7. And even if the aesthetic if say "notes" is not to your taste, that still wouldn't motivate (me anyway) to complain. Only if the problem was severe/significant enough that using your phone has suddenly become...difficult/problematic would it be an issue.
So, yes, I made a leap here, and I should have asked Faruk to clrify what his issue with iOS 7 is/was. If Faruk's issue is in fact what I assumed (eye strain, etc), then I say have at thee. If it's amatter of distate for the aesthetics, then he can either a) get accustomed to the new look and see if maybe he, after all, likes it, or b) vote with his wallet and move on.
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Nov 1, 2013 8:03 AM in response to Faruk K.by TJBUSMC1973,Faruk K. wrote:
(Bad english Knowledge, im from Germany)
I brought my iPhone 4S for a lot of money.
It's MY device, so I want ios 6 back. It's my choise, wich Ios Version i want to use.
It's like: you buying a new GPU from ATI, but The ATI Software says: You can just playing Mahjong with your 400€ Gpu.
That is very silly!
No, it WAS your choice. You upgraded to iOS 7. You cannot go back.
If you buy a pound of beef, and then put it through a meat grinder to make hamburger meat... you can't put it back together to make a steak. No one made you put the beef in a grinder.
Enjoy your hamburger.
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Nov 1, 2013 8:27 AM in response to TJBUSMC1973by Jetjay,I think it was Apple that put the good quality beef through the grinder, they made my gorgeous iPhone 5 and iPad 2 into useless bricks. It used to give me real pleasure to use them with iOS 6, it was lightning fast when surfing the net and changing applications, now it is so slooooow when loading a page, I can almost go and make a cuppa in that time.
Never with OS 6 did I have Safari or other applications 'dropping out' and going to the Home page and don't get me started on the visual changes, suffice to say, according to Apple, I am now visually impaired because I have to use so many 'Accessablity' options.
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Nov 1, 2013 8:47 AM in response to TJBUSMC1973by Myles32,You lot are missing the point or sniffing too much correction fluid it isn't that we don't like it!! , it isn't it looks ***** like a cheap android it's the fact in one way or another it's wrecked our iphone. Wifi , battery life cell signal etc.. So please enough with the " loads of people are loving it " and it little thought to those of us that have issues with our devices.
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Nov 1, 2013 9:04 AM in response to hot_spurby adamdavid80,Hot_spur: I already owned up to my miscommunication. Really? I'm going to encourage someone to lie to Apple...on Apple's own discussion board? Where all my info and whatnot is accessible to Apple? Again, I was telling him to communicate clearly what his issue was. Saying, "I don't like it" will get him nowhere. Making himself clear and saying "I have an issue being able to use it BECAUSE..." might generate in a result to his liking.
If you want to get into issues of "misstatements" being used as a means to claim someone is lying, on your profile you state that you have an iPhone 5c...yet in another topic you claim that your iPhone 5s is on the way. So which one is it? The c? the s? do you have the c in the interim while you wait for the s? or are you just lying and claiming that you even have an iphone in the first place?
Again, I owned up to my error in my assumption. And I clearly stated in my follow-up that YOU WERE RIGHT, and that if it's merely a dislike of the aesthetics, then he should try to become accustomed to the new UI.
But if it's an ability to use the interface concern - either due to eyestrain or, as Myles32 states, wi-fi or battery life issues - he has every reason (particularly if he has AppleCare) to see what his options are.
Btw - I *DID* go to my local Apple store and switched my iPhone 5. I told them my issue (sudden headaches (which I why I made the leap in assuming that Faruk had the same problem) - this was in the week after iOS 7 was released, but before zoom animations were disabled in the reduce motion setting).
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Nov 1, 2013 9:16 AM in response to adamdavid80by hot_spur,Your initial response to me stated that you wished you knew what I was even talking about. Three minutes later I responded to you with my rationale quoting your own statement. Twenty one minutes later, you responded that I had a good point. And now, an hour and a half later you want to regurgitate some incoherent response to something you already responded to?
Are you on drugs?
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Nov 1, 2013 9:17 AM in response to adamdavid80by kowoba,The bottom point is that this will hurt for Apple, many of us will just leave the company behind and look elsewhere.
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Nov 1, 2013 9:28 AM in response to kowobaby adamdavid80,Holy J, Spur, you live to cause problems. That first response was bc I wasn't sure if you were talking about the articles I cited, the interaction I had with the Verizon or Applecare reps, or what. It actually didn't even occur to me that you meant my suggestion.
I don't know what else you need. *I owned my mistake*. *I said you were right*. What more do you need?
Yes, you had to wait a precious 20 minutes and an hour and half later for an answer - because i didn't even see your response til then, bc GOD FORBID I *AM* at work. I answered as soon as I saw it. I'll remmeber to tell my co-worlkers to wait on the conference call with our supplier bc I have an impateint b___ on the apple discussion boards trying to prove that he's a big fat know-it-all know-nothing.
Really, are you just sitting there in front of your computer, hitting the refresh button over and over again, waiting with the lube jar at your side to see how I responded so you can squeeze your nipples and say "HAHA! Gotcha!"? Get a life.
The worst part of ios 7 for me? Dealing with you!
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Nov 1, 2013 1:11 PM in response to adamdavid80by Chris CA,adamdavid80 wrote:
Yes, you had to wait a precious 20 minutes and an hour and half later for an answer
You responded at 8:24 and everything was fine.
Then you apparently again answered the same post at 10:04, as if you had not even read the post you responded to.
If you quote the actual post/words you are responding to, there will be far less confusion.
Click the quote icon at top of the Reply to box. Delete the part of the quote you are not using.
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Nov 1, 2013 3:01 PM in response to Chris CAby modular747,It's almost as if there were a hive of shills floating forum IDs and unable to keep tract of who actually responded, which post they responded to and under which ID. Couldn't be that, right?