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Sep 24, 2013 4:11 PM in response to MacVictimFLby KC7GNM,MacVictimFL wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa, easy there Tex, the man asked a question, I gave an answer, there appear to be a few variations of the flaw.
http://grahamcluley.com/2013/09/ios-7-bug-locked-iphone-call/
And the bypass of the new fingerprint reader.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/22/apple-iphone-fingerprint-scann er-hacked
But no one asked me about Android.
No but you only mentioned one and it will be fixed which is more than I can say for the numerous flaws in android. They will never get fixed. You have to buy a new android phone to get the latested OS where as with apple you can have a 3 year old phone and still get updates.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:12 PM in response to Anti-Staticby KC7GNM,Anti-Static wrote:
Ok we all know now that (at least for the moment) one can’t go back to 6.1.4 from 7.
But can one of the moderators here tell me WHY Apple prohibit downgrading?
I mean what is the justification for not allowing to downgrade something you own?
I want to understand this, maybe it’ll make perfect sense once someone explain this in layman’s term to me.
The biggest reason why is because it introduces more problems than it solves. One is most of the time there is a baseband update and when you start mucking with the baseband on your phone all kinds of things can go screwy with it.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:16 PM in response to KC7GNMby Anti-Static,You're telling me that by going back to 6.1.4 introduces more problems than there is in 7?
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Sep 24, 2013 4:16 PM in response to Anti-Staticby hot_spur,Because there's more than a small chance it could brick your phone. If that happened, and Apple supported the downgrade who would you blame?
That's what I thought.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:23 PM in response to Anti-Staticby KC7GNM,Anti-Static wrote:
You're telling me that by going back to 6.1.4 introduces more problems than there is in 7?
Yes I am telling you that because things that none of us know gets done during an upgrade and things are not that easy to put back. The iphone is not like your computer. It is a phone with lots of radios that get updates too in their firmware.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:24 PM in response to KC7GNMby MacVictimFL,As I mentioned previously KC7GNM, no one asked me about Android, I can only assume you missed that last time. The man asked me to name one, and I named one. Seriously.
But so you're aware, one of my Androids update as well, one of mine updated to newly available software the other day.
The mail app became horrible, and it was practically as ugly as... well it was ugly.
Fortunately since I'm not at the mercy of any particular individual or entity with the device, I was able to flash it with clean non-branded version not full of the providers or makers junkware.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:25 PM in response to hot_spurby Anti-Static,Still no valuable reason to me, they can allow it and still don't support it, you know "at your own risk" "warranty voided" kind of thing!
They allowed a small window open when 7 just was released and I for one reverted to 6.1.4 just as smooth as the upgrade went.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:26 PM in response to viperman17by JustApple500,Wow so glad I looked here first. My ipnone5 just offered me the ios7....won't install now.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:33 PM in response to KC7GNMby Anti-Static,Anti-Static wrote:
You're telling me that by going back to 6.1.4 introduces more problems than there is in 7?
Yes I am telling you that because things that none of us know gets done during an upgrade and things are not that easy to put back. The iphone is not like your computer. It is a phone with lots of radios that get updates too in their firmware.
?? "things that none of us know gets done during an upgrade" I think the somebody must know, and that somebody (probably the programmers/engineers can reverse engineer.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:38 PM in response to lkruppby Claudarg,It is not a question learning is that we cannot see the keyboard and the keypad fonts and icons under !!!!
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Sep 24, 2013 4:44 PM in response to Anti-Staticby MacVictimFL,Obviously your phone is a computer with specialized devices. With the right software and drivers, it could be restored, HOWEVER it is pretty much a certainty that the process will lose ALL data on the phone. Most likely Apple doesn't want to pay to support the process involved with reflashing the device and dealing witht he problems and complaints that would generate. It makes far more sense to push ahead and support the new IOS the best they can.
Besides, if the new software slows down your device and drains the battery with new features, eventually you'll have to get a new one. Cha-ching.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:46 PM in response to Anti-Staticby hot_spur,So Apple should pay programmers and engineers to design an upgrade, then beta test it for months, then also pay programmers and engineers to design a downgrade, then beta test that for months?
Sounds like a great way to lose money. The shareholders will love it.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:46 PM in response to MacVictimFLby TJBUSMC1973,MacVictimFL wrote:
http://www.zdnet.com/new-ios-7-flaw-bypasses-lock-screen-allows-attackers-to-mak e-calls-7000021013/
That's actually an issue more related to the wireless carrier conversion to iOS 7 support than iOS 7 itself. Contrary to the biased author's report in the second article you linked, it is not a 'bug' in the iOS 7 software. It's a failure onthe part of the wirless carriers to properly integrate the calling function.
For the fingerprint 'hack', that's not a hack at all. It's making a COPY of someone's fingerprint and then using that COPY. You need access to the actual fingerprint.
These are not security flaws. No one has 'hacked' iOS 7.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:49 PM in response to Anti-Staticby KC7GNM,Anti-Static wrote:
Anti-Static wrote:
You're telling me that by going back to 6.1.4 introduces more problems than there is in 7?
Yes I am telling you that because things that none of us know gets done during an upgrade and things are not that easy to put back. The iphone is not like your computer. It is a phone with lots of radios that get updates too in their firmware.
?? "things that none of us know gets done during an upgrade" I think the somebody must know, and that somebody (probably the programmers/engineers can reverse engineer.
It might be the engineers that say downgrading is not possible and that is the reason why they don't allow it. Why are you still worried about it now. You know you can't downgrade so just leave it alone. Complaining here isn't going to make apple change their minds.
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Sep 24, 2013 4:50 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973by MacVictimFL,"Apple takes user security very seriously," an Apple spokesman told the Guardian. "We are aware of this issue, and will deliver a fix in a future software update."
What part of that has to do with the carrier?