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Sep 25, 2013 2:55 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973by gifts4me,,Yup, you are right. And we also should have the right to use whatever platform for our operating system we want. We should not have to be strong armed by Apple..
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Sep 25, 2013 2:59 PM in response to PlotinusVeritasby The Ailurophile,"Surface aesthetics are only about 10% of the new IOS7, the remaining 90% are upgrades for APP infrastructure which will support expansive APPs and capacities unrealized in the former IOS."
If surface aesthetics WEREN'T important, Apple wouldn't have spent billions developing a unique look everyone wants to copy. Aesthetics has always been a major part of Apple's appeal along with dependable operating systems. My phone is no longer a wifi hotspot since I downloaded this new system. That's what I PAID for.
The graphic interface looks like a toddler's bad video game. Come on Apple. You can do better.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:01 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973by gifts4me,Thinking about it, YOU may not care but I do think people here do care or there wouldn't be some many posts about this subject. Apple is making a mistake not to let people use what they want. That's all....
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Sep 25, 2013 3:08 PM in response to gifts4meby Phil0124,Apple did not force anybody to update. It was totally voluntary.
If you did not like the OS you could have opted to not update the phone.
Whether the option to downgrade is available may be donw to technical issues where having to support downgrades brings with it some other unseen issues.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:10 PM in response to Phil0124by gifts4me,And it should be voluntary to go back. Simple as that.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:19 PM in response to gifts4meby Allan Eckert,Maybe you should try explaining that to Apple at http://www.apple.com/feedback/
So far no one else has been able to get Apple to change its mind about downgrading of iOS in all the years it has been out there.
Allan
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Sep 25, 2013 5:05 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973by Proteous714,And even more.... its only been all of 7 days since IOS7 is out.. and I would wager there is not a single app out there that has been updated to version 7 than will not run just as well on IOS6. Im still running 6.1.4 currently and plan to keep that for the foreseeable future unless Jonny and Tim do a better job on IOS 8.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:23 PM in response to Phil0124by The Ailurophile,Yes, but you are prompted to do so just like an upgrade to ITUNES. Never ever occurred to me it would be such a headache. It's an APPLE product. If I had known I would NOT have upgraded.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:23 PM in response to gifts4meby Phil0124,As I said it may not be technically possible... There may be many technical issues invovled in going back which we don't know about.
As it stands there is no way to go back. Posting here will not change that.
f you want to tell Apple about your dissatisfaction use the Feedback page.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:31 PM in response to Phil0124by The Ailurophile,OK I just sent them feedback. I was calm and rational, I described all the issues I've been having today. But frankly I'm a practically brand new IPHONE user and I was SO happy. Now I'm miserable. I'm pretty tech savvy, but this is WHY I abandoned Dell and Windows to come back to MAC. This stuff is typical Windows crap. I expect better from MAC.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:36 PM in response to AntonLargiaderby TJBUSMC1973,AntonLargiader wrote:
Apple is touting the high adoption rate of IOS 7 but I don't see any footnote disclaimers saying that they aren't letting people go back.
Why should there be a footnote? That's part of the terms & conditions, and downgrading has NEVER been an option, not since the first iOS device debuted SIX years ago.
gifts4me wrote:
,Yup, you are right. And we also should have the right to use whatever platform for our operating system we want. We should not have to be strong armed by Apple..
No, if you want to use any operating system you want, then don't use an Apple product. This has never been a secret.
gifts4me wrote:
Thinking about it, YOU may not care but I do think people here do care or there wouldn't be some many posts about this subject. Apple is making a mistake not to let people use what they want. That's all....
No, each individual person cares about their individual situation. No one here cares if another person switches or not... or if they do, then that's pretty sad.
gifts4me wrote:
And it should be voluntary to go back. Simple as that.
No, it shouldn't. It's spelled out very clearly in the terms & conditions. Did you read those terms & conditions before installing the iOS 7 update?
Proteous714 wrote:
Not true at all.. I've seen that fairy tale thrown around here a few times trying to scare people from "downgrading". After rolling back to 6.1.X you can restore from an ICloud backup that was made while you were still on IOS6, or even better restore from your Itunes backup and sync... those apps will still be stored locally if you were smart enough to sync before doing the update.
And even more.... its only been all of 7 days since IOS7 is out.. and I would wager there is not a single app out there that has been updated to version 7 than will not run just as well on IOS6. I have wiped and re-installed my phone running IOS7 beta / went back to 6.1.4.. restored from ICould... restored from Itunes , synched multipe times and the phone runs perfectly. Im still running 6.1.4 currently and plan to keep that for the foreseeable future unless Jonny and Tim do a better job on IOS 8.
There's more to it than that. But, hey, believe whatever you want. There's a REASON Apple doesn't support downgrading.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:39 PM in response to PlotinusVeritasby GryphonLA,PlotinusVeritas wrote:
Surface aesthetics are only about 10% of the new IOS7, the remaining 90% are upgrades for APP infrastructure which will support expansive APPs and capacities unrealized in the former IOS.
Consider the 90% in light of the 10% aesthetic you find subjectively unpleasing.
Yes, but that's the equivalent of saying, "Here, I put a Ferrari engine in this 1976 Ford Pinto. It's so fast that you're being petty to complain about how it looks."
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Sep 25, 2013 3:45 PM in response to Proteous714by gifts4me,Oh my goodness, this is the best answer. I'm not so good at this so could you maybe write stpe by step instructions we could follow?
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Sep 25, 2013 3:47 PM in response to TJBUSMC1973by Proteous714,Well I would say downgrading has never really been needed before, as each update was an improvement on the previous iteration. Sadly, this is no longer the case now that the IOS team has new leadership, and so a downgrade option .. in probably the first time in the Iphones history (and I have owned them all since the oginial 2G IPhone :-P ) ... would represent an improvement over their latest work.
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Sep 25, 2013 3:48 PM in response to The Ailurophileby gifts4me,Agreed, all I was trying trying to do was upgrade my i tunes since I hadn't done it in a while. I had my phone attached to my computer after uploading pictures and forgot to unplug. Next thing I know it had downloaded os7!