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How do I hide old podcasts in iTunes 11.1 and What's Up with the New Podcast Pane?

FIrst of all, I'm having fits with this "new" way of managing podcasts.


For years, I have managed the podcasts on my iPod (and now my iPhone 5) by manually syncing the device with my subscribed podcasts in iTunes. I have iTunes set to download the most recent episode of each of my podcasts and to keep all episodes until I delete them. Some podcasts I listen to or view only my MacBook Pro and I don't sync these to my iPhone. This has worked fine for years.


I moved to Apple's dedicated Podcasting app when I purchased my iPhone 5 earlier this year, but I maintained the manual syncing as I had done, using the app only to play the podcasts, not to subscribe to or download them.


I upgraded my iPhone 5 and iPad 3 to iOS 7 on launch day and downloaded iTunes 11.1 to my MacBook Pro, running OS X 10.8.5. The iOS upgrades went flawlessly for both of my devices, but iTunes has been a problem. It was sluggish when I first opened it, with lots of spinning beach balls. When I opened it for the first time, I went to the Podcast section and to my list of podcasts. They all now had "Subscribe" buttons by each of them (I was already subscribed to the podcasts in iTunes before the update). I assumed that I had to click the buttons to activate subscriptions in iTunes, but low and behold I discovered that it subscribed my iPhone 5's podcast app to ALL of the podcasts in my list (even ones that I don't put on the iPhone). It also started DOWNLOADING all of the episodes of these podcasts to my iPhone which, had I let it continue, would have eaten all of my bandwidth on Verizon for the month (and then some), plus the iPhone would have been filled up long before it could finish downloading the episodes.


I managed to get the iPhone's Podcast app to stop downloading these episodes, then I manually deleted all of the podcasts that didn't belong on the iPhone. I then had to go through all of the podcasts in the app and click a yellow box that said they hadn't been updated and wouldn't resum updating until I clicked the box.


Then I went back to iTunes 11.1, where I discovered that ALL the podcast episodes for my subscriptions that are still available for download in their feeds were now listed (2,000+ episodes), with previously listened-to episodes now showing with a cloud download icon next to them. Even more frustrating, I can't delete these from iTunes even though I've already listened to them and, even more frustratingly, the "Subscribe" button remains by each podcast in the list.


All I want to do is remove these previously-listened to podcasts from my lists, remove the subscribe buttons (since I'm already subscribed in iTunes), and continue to manually sync my iPhone's podcasts with iTunes as before. What do I have to do to make this happen? And if these are new "features" of the new iTunes, please share with your team that, while there are many who update wirelessly over their cell carrier's bandwidth, others of us don't have the capability (or desire) to do things this way and we want to switch this off and return to the "old" way of doing things.


Any ideas on how to fix iTunes 11.1 to return to the old way of doing things would be greatly appreciated!

MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2008), OS X Mountain Lion, 4 Gb of RAM

Posted on Sep 19, 2013 6:26 AM

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Sep 21, 2013 4:01 PM in response to David Biddix

Well I have read everyones views here and I agree with everything said. I have just wasted a good hour of my life getting very annoyed with itunes, I'm fed up with being messed about by a bunch of second grade programmers, that's really what you are!!!!


What's even funnier My stations does not transfer to my nano so what's the point of all this confusion and distress?


Who ever is in charge of software development for itunes needs to pull up their socks. Apple are really loosing the plot, it's about time we recognise that apple doesn't care about us the consumer. I'm moving on to find another solution that doesn't use apple software any ideas I'm on a PC.

Sep 22, 2013 5:26 AM in response to David Biddix

Well, I just tried to restore my lost podcasts from my Time Capsule backup - not good, my restored podcasts from the same show were distributed into two folders (with the same name), with no obvious way to merge the folders, and despite the podcast meta-data (via 'Info') being identical.


So I decided to re-download all the lost video/audio podcasts from scratch, to see if that would fix things. It's taken the best part of my weekend, and about 30GB worth later. It appeared to go smoothly, BUT for some unknown reason, the podcasts just don't seemd to be saved onto my hardrive in the usual fashion.


Can ask I a dumb question here, what does the little downward arrow/cloud icon mean - does it mean you are downloading to your local hardrive from the Cloud, or does it mean you are somehow downloading and then saving to your iCloud storage?


Bottom line is: I think iTunes 11 is a complete bag load of #X!%* !!! I disagree with you Nzape, they are not second rate programmers, they are something even less than that! I think I was using iTunes 10 before, and up to now, I've flatly refused to upgrade to iTunes 11 for fear of things breaking. Well now we know, our fears have come true. Inevitiably the day arrived when I couldn't postpone the "upgrade" any longer, and iTunes 11 was required for iOS7. Not happy with this at all...!


Fox27

Sep 22, 2013 5:37 AM in response to fox27

Can ask I a dumb question here, what does the little downward arrow/cloud icon mean - does it mean you are downloading to your local hardrive from the Cloud, or does it mean you are somehow downloading and then saving to your iCloud storage?

As best I can tell, neither. The cloud icon means the episode is "out there" in internet land - in THE cloud, but not in YOUR cloud - and it's available for download. If there's no cloud icon, then that episode is already on your computer.


If you think of a public library metaphor: the cloud icon means the book is in the library, and you can go get it if you want: and, just like public libraries frown on members shredding books, the podcast library doesn't want you to delete the file. No cloud icon means the book is already in your home. (Just why Apple has apparently chosen this kind of metaphor is beyond me. It makes even less sense than equating podcasts to a reel-to-reel tape.)


As for downloading, and where they go: I have absolutely no idea. I keep downloading podcasts that disappear, and others that stick around. I have no idea why. Others download five times. At this point any podcast that I manage to download is instantly relabelled as "Media Kind = Audiobook", just so I can manipulate it without iTunes/Apple causing further trouble.


Tentative guess: I think Apple/iTunes are trying to move us towards a model where the podcast files are never on our computer at all; we just stream them as and when we want. I've found a couple of times in iTunes 11.1 that I've been playing a podcast that I thought was downloaded, but actually I was streaming it. This model would probably improve syncing with iOS devices, and in a way I can see the logic behind it. That being said, it is NOT a model I want any part of.

Sep 23, 2013 5:02 AM in response to David Biddix

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's annoyed by this setup. I usually shrug off new features that I don't like if I can see the reasoning behind them, but I don't see how being forced to look at every available podcast is a feature anyone would find useful. Between this an the horrid Podcast app, I wish Apple would just give up the podcast ghost and leave them to 3rd party developers already.

Sep 23, 2013 5:10 AM in response to Dennis Bodden

The Podcasts module in iTunes 11 is plauged with so many problems. I've just started a new Discussion relating to the fact that I can't even do a simple save on some podcasts. I feel that the problems are so significant, that Apple must be working on a solution as we speak. I recall the Apple iOS podcast app which was released with so many bugs - they didn't take that long to get the message and iron things out. Fox

Sep 23, 2013 9:47 AM in response to David Biddix

I think the solution is basically simple. Apple needs to add a 'switch' to View or an item in Preferences to do something like hide or not show previously listened to podcasts. On the other hand this should be a boon to maker of third party podcast apps like Downcast, iCatcher and Instacast. Personally I am waiting for an at least 128 GB iPod Touch so that I can use one of the aforementioned podcatcher apps to sync listened to podcasts with my iPad Mini.

Sep 23, 2013 10:12 AM in response to David Biddix

How do I get Time Capsule to show me past podcast episodes?


I have several podcasts I was saving, and since they had been listened to, they are now gone. They are older, so they aren't available to re-download. UGH.


I just want to be able to get the old podcasts that were deleted by the new update - which is HORRID.


Anyway - When I open Time Capsule and go back to a day before the update, it only gives me the option to open it up in iTunes, but when I click that, nothing happens.

Sep 23, 2013 10:48 AM in response to David Biddix

I agree wholeheartedly. This new podcast management scheme in iTunes is bogus. I'm fine with iOS7 on the device, more or less, but podcast handling on iTunes has become unmanageable.


I prefer List view 100-to-1 over the other choices, but it's now utterly polluted with listings that go back to the origin of nearly every podcast I subscribe to. There are hundreds of lines dedicated to Planet Money going back to 2008, to name one example. And they all appeared checked, which per my "sync checked podcasts" setting would have triggered a mass download to my device if I hadn't unchecked them quickly.


usually, I delete the line with the episode I just finished. But today such deleted episodes magically reappear right back where they were with the poofy iCloud icon. NO! I want it gone from the list entirely. Or, if I really like it, saved in perpetuity.


Right-clicking any episode line reveals a command line called "show old podcasts" but there's no check to uncheck to change the status to something like "hide old podcasts" which might help a little. It sounds like someone in Cupertino was thinking about it but failed to follow through and finish the implementation. But even that might have it's problems. Mainly, I just want to save what I want to save and delete what I want to delete. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so.

Sep 23, 2013 4:35 PM in response to sbarbe13

sbarbe13: In case you didn't know, you can remove the Podcast app from your iPhone/iPod/iPad, and the Music app will take over again just like in the old days. The Podcast app is frustrating to me because it wouldn't allow me to create playlists of multiple podcasts in a single list, even if I created them in iTunes on my computer.

Sep 23, 2013 4:40 PM in response to LarryG18

LarryG: Did you do anything specific? I still have lots of "puffy clouds" (thanks, actualsize!) in my List view.


The My Podcasts view does hide the puffy clouds, but then I can't see all of my available podcasts in the same window. The Unplayed view is a little better, but there is no way to change the sort order, so you can't group the podcasts by source.

How do I hide old podcasts in iTunes 11.1 and What's Up with the New Podcast Pane?

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