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How do I hide old podcasts in iTunes 11.1 and What's Up with the New Podcast Pane?

FIrst of all, I'm having fits with this "new" way of managing podcasts.


For years, I have managed the podcasts on my iPod (and now my iPhone 5) by manually syncing the device with my subscribed podcasts in iTunes. I have iTunes set to download the most recent episode of each of my podcasts and to keep all episodes until I delete them. Some podcasts I listen to or view only my MacBook Pro and I don't sync these to my iPhone. This has worked fine for years.


I moved to Apple's dedicated Podcasting app when I purchased my iPhone 5 earlier this year, but I maintained the manual syncing as I had done, using the app only to play the podcasts, not to subscribe to or download them.


I upgraded my iPhone 5 and iPad 3 to iOS 7 on launch day and downloaded iTunes 11.1 to my MacBook Pro, running OS X 10.8.5. The iOS upgrades went flawlessly for both of my devices, but iTunes has been a problem. It was sluggish when I first opened it, with lots of spinning beach balls. When I opened it for the first time, I went to the Podcast section and to my list of podcasts. They all now had "Subscribe" buttons by each of them (I was already subscribed to the podcasts in iTunes before the update). I assumed that I had to click the buttons to activate subscriptions in iTunes, but low and behold I discovered that it subscribed my iPhone 5's podcast app to ALL of the podcasts in my list (even ones that I don't put on the iPhone). It also started DOWNLOADING all of the episodes of these podcasts to my iPhone which, had I let it continue, would have eaten all of my bandwidth on Verizon for the month (and then some), plus the iPhone would have been filled up long before it could finish downloading the episodes.


I managed to get the iPhone's Podcast app to stop downloading these episodes, then I manually deleted all of the podcasts that didn't belong on the iPhone. I then had to go through all of the podcasts in the app and click a yellow box that said they hadn't been updated and wouldn't resum updating until I clicked the box.


Then I went back to iTunes 11.1, where I discovered that ALL the podcast episodes for my subscriptions that are still available for download in their feeds were now listed (2,000+ episodes), with previously listened-to episodes now showing with a cloud download icon next to them. Even more frustrating, I can't delete these from iTunes even though I've already listened to them and, even more frustratingly, the "Subscribe" button remains by each podcast in the list.


All I want to do is remove these previously-listened to podcasts from my lists, remove the subscribe buttons (since I'm already subscribed in iTunes), and continue to manually sync my iPhone's podcasts with iTunes as before. What do I have to do to make this happen? And if these are new "features" of the new iTunes, please share with your team that, while there are many who update wirelessly over their cell carrier's bandwidth, others of us don't have the capability (or desire) to do things this way and we want to switch this off and return to the "old" way of doing things.


Any ideas on how to fix iTunes 11.1 to return to the old way of doing things would be greatly appreciated!

MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2008), OS X Mountain Lion, 4 Gb of RAM

Posted on Sep 19, 2013 6:26 AM

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Oct 6, 2013 5:03 AM in response to fox27

I downloaded the 2007 keynote. In the feed, the relevant tag says:


<enclosure url="http://itstreaming.apple.com/podcasts/apple_keynotes/1_macworld2007.m4v" length="6325000" type="video/x-m4v" />


You will see they've entered the 'length' attribute (which should be the file size in bytes) as 632500, which is why it's erroneously being shown as 6.1 MB. Once downloaded on subscription the correct file size is taken from the file's metadata, 1.21GB.


I played part of it, skipped some way in and played a bit more, then stopped and quit iTunes. On reopening it, and double-clicking the episode (which still showed 1.21GB) it resumed playing from where I left off.


So all behaviour is normal. Make sure that in your 'Podcast Settings' in 'My Podcasts' (button top right) you have 'Keep' to 'All' - I haven't experimented to see what happens if you change this.


I'm in the UK, though I don't think this is relevant. The file says it is a 'protected MPEG-4 movie' but I don't see that this has anything to do with it. (I was able to open it as an audio file in Amadeus Pro.)

Oct 6, 2013 8:02 AM in response to Silkefromdeu

Silkefromdeu wrote:


that's all very nice and I am sure very sophisticated and thus highly satisfying for the technically minded but simple-just-user-me would VERY much prefer if I were told at the place where I normally find that information how big a download is.

Normally you are: they just made a mistake. The other entries in the feed are correct.

Oct 6, 2013 8:15 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

The other entries in the feed are correct.


not the way it displays for me, there is one with 22 MB and 15 with no indication of size at all


Thus those that tell me nothing or nothing probable are the majority of the 25 I get offered for download if I say ctrl-click for old episodes.


Maybe they made a mistake but if they made it for more than half I assume intention or bouts of adoration for mysterious philosophy

Oct 6, 2013 9:36 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

carelessness is a philosophy too and for some time it was even one that sold really big.


sometime in the late 90s business consultants thought they had hit the nail with the philosophy that eliminating the last 10 % of mistakes costs the majority of money thus in order to save money allow 10 % of mistakes to occur.


That ran for some years then the next big "philosophies" came into fashion and one of them was called Total Quality Management and guess what: they were intolerant of any mistakes.

Oct 7, 2013 12:12 PM in response to vabubb

and what will happen to all the other stuff that doesn't work any longer?


I could make a long list of oddities which make it really tough to keep my library in shape but let me just mention the serach function which delivers results which aren't even available after I have asked for all old podcasts to be shown.


I never thought Apple programmers/technicians could sink so low in my esteem and I happen to know a bit about how to distinguish a well designed program from rubbish.

Oct 7, 2013 12:23 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

hi Roger

OT - but since you mention in your profile that you like classical music maybe this might give you some joy


http://www.dradio.de/recorder/999551/

http://www.phonostar.de/partner/dradio-recorder


as far as I have tested it that recorder lets you download all of Deutschlandfunk and Deutschlandradio program including all concerts and operas - unimpeded by copyright and iTunes lets you import them from their preprogrammed storage place without a hitch in case you want to listen to them on a mobile device. (if you need any help operating it, let me know, but I think it is pretty self-explaining) It has one glitch though i.e. it seems to me that it doesn't like iTunes being open at the same time (therefore I run it on my old laptop). It should work abroad because all our public institutions are keen on keeping our expats on board.


BTW it isn't the only such radio recorder on offer within Germany's public radio conglomerate(BBC kind of) but it offers so much that I have refrained from installing the only other one that came my way. (but the way federalist German public radio is operating, there should be quite a number of them by now)


Good Luck in case this is you cup of tea

Oct 9, 2013 4:19 AM in response to Silkefromdeu

Well I've checked all my iTunes settings, and did a repair permissions. The problem still remains, select podcasts disappear before my eyes.


But there appears to be a pattern to all this. When I upgraded from iTunes 10 to iTunes 11.1, some, but not all, of my podcasts were erased. Now, the podcast disappearing issue with iTunes 11.1.1 (the patch that supposedly fixes things) only seems to affect those episodes that were erased when I first upgraded to iTunes 11.1.


Its really strange, and from the posts above by Silkefromdue and Roger, it seems to suggest that the problem is peculiar to my machine.


I'm out of ideas....? Fox

Oct 9, 2013 8:30 AM in response to fox27

What are your current settings? Under preferences/store deselect all syncing? Under My Podcasts/settings select Keep ALL?


You might have a corrupted iTunes Library. Do you have a recent backup of the 2 iTunes library files? If not, create a new one at a different location and just use it to download podcasts into it to see if they disappear.

Oct 10, 2013 5:57 AM in response to Timbuktu

Timbuktu, you have solved my problem! Thank you!


Yes, I had 'Keep All' selected under Setting in My Podcasts, but I then de-selected "Sync podcast subscriptions and settings" in iTunes Preferences/Store - as you suggested. Wha-la! It works, my podcasts don't self-erase (so far).


Question: what does "Sync podcast subscriptions and settings" actually do, because the repercussions ain't exactly obvious in my book... Fox!

Oct 10, 2013 9:39 AM in response to fox27

As far as I can tell Apple hasn't updated iTunes Help to refelect this new "sync podcast subscriptions and preferences" setting - and a few other changes since iTunes 11.1 - and I haven't found a reference on Apple Support either. The following is fully speculative, I assume it works similar to keeping a word document in the cloud that can be updated from all devices and always reflects the latest changes. Again, the likely idea is to keep your podcasts in sync with all your devices, so when you make any changes to your podcasts on any device, that change is applied to all devices. This works well for playback, ratings and read status but not so well for deleting content automatically without specifying additional criteria.


Pure speculation though...

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