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  • Angoasa Level 1 Level 1

    Enough with the hardware bs !

    ...It's just a software bug in the new iOS. Every major company has this problem when they completely rewrite their software products. Take Microsoft for you remember what happened when you upgraded to Windows Me ?! ...or Windows Vista ?! Was it your computer's fault then, that the intel or amd platform had problems running a stable Windows ?! ...then Windows 7 was released and everyone was happy and relaxed again.

    So don't torture your devices anymore, just let Apple know about this wifi problem and wait patiently for a fix. It is not up to you to fix this bug unless you are working for Apple as a software developer.


    Also, after upgrading to iOS7, my iPhone 4S works just like before !! (only the battery drains much faster)

    But still, I have this wifi problem you all have, with my iPad 4 cellular !!!

    So it is not only our old iPhones 4S, but most Apple devices which is obviously due to a software bug.


    And one more thing ...I don't know if you noticed, but I think the cellular signal is now much weaker than before, at least on both my devices it does. I went from a full signal to 3 dots on the phone and 1 dot on the iPad.

  • woodmicha Level 1 Level 1

    Device was moist coming out of freezer so I can attest to this fact.  My water indicators had already been tripped so no harm for me.  Device isn't quite a brick but close given I have no wifi...


    One wonders if water damage has influenced this HW/software conflict we seem to be sharing on this community. 

  • Trace123 Level 1 Level 1



    The procedure does not work, Apple know this Plenty of us on here have tried this. They went through all that with me on the phone waiting for me through the whole procedure for me to reset and set phone up as a new phone. Then act like they haven't heard of this happening before. When I mentioned about the amount of people on the forum with the exact same problem the girl said, "oh I'm not really sure you can believe what's wrote on these forums". I told her that I was talking about the Apple forum that is on the Apple website under support where people come to troubleshoot so how can Apple be unaware her reply was "oh, well we can offer you a new handset for £146.

  • gail from maine Level 7 Level 7


  • woodmicha Level 1 Level 1

    One other little observation I've made on this issue.  Bluetooth is also affected.  My device will rarely connect to BT automatically in the car and when I run with Bluetooth headphones they cut in/out when the device isn't held perfectly still... 


    Basically a brick:/

  • Angoasa Level 1 Level 1

    Guys, calm down ! Just wait for the fix, there is NOTHING we can do !

    It is not up to us to make iDevices work with iOS 7 !

    Apple IS AWARE of this problem and is working already on a fix, they just don't want to go public with it.

    It was a mistake, they'll make it better.



    Also, this is blown out of proportions here because Apple has built this image of a perfect company that produces flawless devices. If this would have happened to Samsung, no one would have been upset (they would somehow expected Samsung products to not be perfect).


    And completely rewrite the entire OS and make it avalilable free also on 3 years old devices is no small thing !!

    How many 3years old android devices do you know that officially received Android 4.3 ? ...and that's only a small increment, it's not a new OS !


    Apple's problem is that they want only the best for their customers (so they can charge more for their products) and this bug was the price they had to pay !

  • adil.malik Level 1 Level 1

    No one with the three years old phone was dying to update to iOS7. iTunes forced me to do so. Everytime I pluged in my phone, the iTunes pops up a message to ask for update, and there was no way to say "No, I don't want to update". You just have to cancel that annoying message everytime to continue using iTunes. To get rid of that message I updated to iOS7 and I never knew it would be this much horrible.

    Don't ever compare Apple products to the Samsung products. Apple products are almost double in price. So it's not good to point out Samsung's problems to justify Apple's bug. This iOS version was very poorly tested. Just like every version of iOS and xCode that Apple releases. Apple has to increase their testing capabilities or they will loose their customers as well as their fans.

  • Angoasa Level 1 Level 1

    You are only partly right, there is no comparison between Samsung and Apple.

    However, the price is not the reason.

    If you take Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5s, they cost almost the same with a 2 years contract. And the build quality of Samsung products is much lower than Apple's ...not to mention the Android and the apps...

  • Bin Kroon Level 1 Level 1

    Angoasa wrote:

    Apple IS AWARE of this problem and is working already on a fix, they just don't want to go public with it.


    Just curious, where did you get the information from Apple is working on this problem? Did I miss something?


    And lets just suppose they 'are' working on a solution: wouldn't it be very good Public Relations and maybe even respectful to their customers to inform them before they have all left?

    When you say 'hey guys, we made a mistake, give us a bit of time and will work it out', people will accept this (in general) If you don't communicate. this creates frustration, anger (iPhones are NOT cheap)


    2015: Apple sends out a communication: "to all our loyal iPhone 4s users experiencing a wifi problem:

    Hey guess what! By popular demand we have created a fix! You can download it now on our www or on gopher"


    2 months later: new communication: "well after two months we discovered no one downloaded the fix, so apparently there was no real problem. so our conclusion is we must have very satisfied customers"


    If I would show this behaviour to my clients, I would have no clients left....

    Just common sense.....

  • zeal78 Level 1 Level 1

    The only thing that worked for me was to turn on airplane mode and turn the phone off. I left it off over night and the next morning the wifi toggle was no longer greyed out.

    However no networks are being picked up now. Phone still randomly goes to black screen and only way to get it to work again is hard reset. (Home button and power button)

    Settings menu still freezes/lags sometimes.

    (iPhone 4s ios 7.0.2)

    No problems until I updated to 7.0.2

  • bourst Level 1 Level 1

    No, that did not work for me.  The ONLY thing that worked for me with my iPhone 5 was that the store agreed to replace my phone at no cost.  The phone comes with iOS 6 and I have not updated to iOS 7.  I will not until I hear of a solution. 

  • Angoasa Level 1 Level 1

    The reason for not going public is obvious: it might affect sales on the new release iPhone 5s. ...remember the "death grip" (and THAT WAS A HARDWARE DESIGN PROBLEM) ?! ...competition is waiting for any small chance to jump at Apple's throat.

    So, they think, since not EVERYONE is affected, they can quietly fix this and new customers will never know. :)


    They can't just say: "Buy right now this new iPhone 5s for only 800$ running the new iOS 7!! may not connect to the network, but don't worry, we'll fix it later, after we figure what the problem is !" now, can they ?!

  • Bin Kroon Level 1 Level 1

    The only thing is, here we are talking about the 4S and not the 5 or 5S...


    All devices and software has errors and the worst you can do is to pretend there is no problem...

    That might have worked in the pre-internet days but not anymore these days....

  • Prokhozhy Level 1 Level 1

    Well, gail from maine, allow me to retort! This is about Apple's being able and willing to go to certain lengths to protect their customers. And this is definitely something that Apple should have foreseen, tested, prevented or at least warned me about (good legalese there, btw). Anything less than that is irresponsible corporate conduct redolent of unrestrained profit-seeking (not necessarily unrestrained profit-seeking). Naturally, there should be limits to testing. Here is a sample program:

    1. Make a list of ALL apps sold/offered  through AppStore (ideal scenario);

    2. If the list is too long, use a filter (say, number of downloads - select only most used apps);

    3. Test how the new OS works with EACH app on the list;

    4. If any app conflicts with the OS, disclose that information well in advance of releasing the OS, and publish it in LARGE CAPITAL LETTERS IN THE MOST VISIBLE SPOT; then request users to either get rid of non-compliant apps or proceed to upgrade at their own risk;

    5. Warn users that apps coming from third-party providers are not vetted, and users should either get rid of them or proceed to upgrade at their own risk;

    6. Give users an opportunity NOT to upgrade without getting annoying reminders; and

    7. Give users an opportunity to roll back to the previous version of the OS if they do not like the new one.

    Now, THAT is responsible corporate conduct. Also, the number of 4S phones affected seems to be disproportionately large vis-a-vis other devices. I find it hard to believe that this fact did not come out during the testing process - particularly if testing was sufficiently rigorous.

    Last but not least, failure to recognize a problem which is driving numerous customers nuts throughout the world is COMPLETELY irresponsible if not downright cowardly.

  • Angoasa Level 1 Level 1

    YOU are talking about iPhone 4S, I have this wifi problem on my iPad 4 cellular !!

    My iPhone 4S works just fine (from what I've seen so far).

    This wifi issue, is an iOS 7 problem ! So Apple has enough reasons to keep quiet about this !


    ..but I would not worry so much...of course, I am ****** that I cannot use my iPad just as much as the next guy, but I would not go that far to try to fix it myself, put my iPad in the freezer, or mess up my router configuration...I will not risk destroying a 1000$ piece of hardware for a software bug. (and yes, in Europe, a 32Gb iPad 4 + cellular is sold for 1000$ on a contract by Vodafone)


    So, see it like this: Apple is a software company, and a very good one, they are making operating systems since the dawn of the computer era (and so does Microsoft). There is no way in **** they will leave this unsolved unless they want to commit commercial suicide.

    ( which case I will change my iPhones and iPad for Lumias and a Microsoft Surface)

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