The iphone 5s unlock A1533

The iPhone 5s ( A1533 ) is it for At&t and T-Mobile LTE , if not i don't see the unlock one for At&t


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Posted on Sep 19, 2013 9:36 AM

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Oct 8, 2013 9:19 PM in response to deggie

deggie wrote:



Approximately 30 days later Apple offered an unlocked GSM iPhone for $50 more. This one was unlocked and and did not come with a SIM.




Also, when the SIM-Free unlocked iPhone 4s and 5 went on sale, they were the same price as the full-price carrier versions ($649). It's also the case right now with the T-Mobile and SIM-free "official" unlocked iPhone 5c, which is $549. I can't recall them ever charging a $50 premium. You just don't get the $450 carrier subsidy.

Oct 8, 2013 9:30 PM in response to modular747

modular747 wrote:



First, all Verizon phones are unlocked


The GSM section is unlocked, but the CDMA section is permanently locked to Verizon. They can't be used with other CDMA carriers.




True, but that's the case even with the "official" unlocked iPhone. Only a "Verizon" phone will work on Verizon. CDMA carriers can more easily block devices from their network than GSM carriers.

Oct 8, 2013 9:30 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

I'm not crazy man! Thanks for all the suggestions, in fact I never thought of the warranty(even with the past two). I'm kinda fine with that though. I've got a pilot friend of mine who goes and comes.

My friend will ask apple if the phone will work outside us cause don't care if it's locked to that carrier in the us. If so he will buy it... and bring it to me( which will make me avoid the tax expenses). In Italy iPhone 5s will come out around the end of november(if we are lucky) and probably with the same formula of the locked phones to carriers.

Moreover it's still goin to be around 400 dollars more... I'm actually saving a lot. I'd rather add another 200 an get two then.

Oct 9, 2013 6:40 AM in response to akuska

The link you provided contradicts what you have stated. Copying directly from the site:


General Eligibility Requirements for Unlocking All AT&T Mobile Devices

AT&T will unlock an AT&T Mobile Device under the following circumstances:

  • The person requesting the unlock must be one of the following:
    • a current AT&T customer
    • a former AT&T customer who can provide the phone number or account number for the account
  • The AT&T Mobile Device was designed for use on AT&T's network.
  • The AT&T Mobile Device has been paid for in full.
  • The AT&T Mobile Device has not been reported lost or stolen.

In other words, if you were not an AT&T customer they will not unlock it.

Oct 9, 2013 7:04 AM in response to akuska

I am so sick of misinformation on this forum. It is mindblowing how people comment on things without having any idea.


Whoever is reading this entry and trying to get information on this particular subject, please only follow akuska's information. The rest is just worthless trash.


I asked the same question last week regarding the status of phones and got a plethora of response. They were all varied. People kept saying I was throwing my money away.


Well this is what happened: I ended up buying 4 iPhone5S's from the Apple Store and paid the full retail price last week. I did not have them activated, I just paid and left the store. Two were AT&T devices and two were Verizon devices.


I took them to Istanbul over the weekend and gave it to my friends who ordered them. They opened the package, they threw away the SIM card that came in the phone, they plugged in their SIM card.


All of the phones worked without an issue, have been working since last Saturday. Yes, they will not have LTE service but there is no LTE in Turkey anyways.


Here is the rundown: The phones work fine outside the US, most of the people who say otherwise either do not know what they are talking about or they have no idea what the cellular infrastructure is like overseas. So if you are buying this phone to take overseas and do not expect it to perform at 4G, LTE levels, if you are going to be satisfied with domestic GSM network you will be fine.


Apple does not want you to know this. On their website AT&T and Verizon phones have an cautionary asterisk and warn you that the phones will not work with another carrier. When I asked the guy at the Apple Store whether it will be a problem, he told me that they are going to release a fully unlocked iPhone 5S in a couple of months if I chose to wait. He did not say that I was going to run into issues if I bought an AT&T phone, but he also refrained from saying that I will be 100% fine. As you see, there is a deliberate ambiguity.


Just read akuska's responses in this link and base your decision on that. I have and everything he advised was accurate.

Oct 9, 2013 7:14 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

I agree there is more risk when buying directly from AT&T, which I why I recommend buying directly from an Apple Store. I can't speak personally to how strictly AT&T applies their own policies to non-customers as I am an AT&T customer. You may be right there. That's another reason I like the Verizon devices. There's no need to worry about whether it's actually locked. It's just a matter of getting someone to sell it to you. I've heard, but can't substantiate that some Verizon stores and independent franchisers will sell an iPhone at full price if you sign up for a prepaid plan, but since they get more commissions for a postpaid contract it might be hard to find such a store.


While an Apple Retail Store can refuse to sell to you (which they might do if they suspect you are a reseller), an average person walking in to buy a single device for personal use likely won't have an issue. You might get fed the line that "officially" the phone works only with a particular carrier.

Oct 14, 2013 10:09 PM in response to 1a4you

Just wanted to throw in my two cents that my experience has borne out everything akuska has said. I had a friend who wanted to buy an iPhone 5 to take to Cyprus. At that time, you could buy the official unlocked GSM-only model -- which was the same hardware as the AT&T and T-Mobile models.


We went to the Fifth Avenue Apple Store, and of course they suggested she get the "unlocked" model, but I advised she get the Verizon model, since it had the LTE bands found in the European-only model. She paid full price and didn't have it activated or enrolled. She wasn't a Verizon customer. She just took the phone and used it.


It seems the confusion here has to do with the fact that the non-Sprint phones are in fact unlocked when they are sitting on the shelf at the retail Apple store, and are only locked during the process of selling them to you. If you don't need a contract or activation at the time of sale, they remain unlocked. Of course this isn't officially described anywhere, but those are the facts on the ground.


An associate actually told me this is how it works, when I was trying to understand it; she said, if I remember it correctly, that they only had two kinds of phones back there, the Verizon one and the unlocked GSM-only one. The "AT&T model" is what the unlocked one becomes during the sale process. (If you think about it, this makes sense, since it significantly simplifies inventory.) But before they released the "unlocked" model, was there any difference in what they stocked for the AT&T model? No. It was the same unlocked phone.


I think the confusion further comes from the fact that this doesn't at all apply to online sales, or carrier sales -- and that, on its face, if Apple isn't yet offering an official "unlocked" model, it implies that the models they are selling must be locked. It also seems unlikely that what you can get in the Apple retail store would be different than what you can get in their online store, but that's how it is. In the Apple online store, you can't buy a Verizon phone without a contract. But in the retail store, you can, if you ask.


So yes, it's entirely possible that someone could spend full price on a phone to get it on a month-to-month contract, but still have it be carrier-locked. But if they spend full price on it at an Apple retail store, and request that it not be activated (what akuska is calling a "device-only" sale), then that phone is unlocked, even if it's not the official "unlocked" model.


And finally, just to say it again, every new Verizon iPhone sold anywhere is GSM-unlocked -- just search "verizon iphone 5s unlocked" if you don't believe me, and you'll find reputable articles saying as much. The same should be true for the full-price T-Mobile phones sold in the Apple online store.

Oct 15, 2013 4:16 AM in response to IvanXQZ

IvanXQZ wrote:



And finally, just to say it again, every new Verizon iPhone sold anywhere is GSM-unlocked

This is almost true. People need to keep in mind that it is only true for LTE capable devices. The Verizon iPhon 4S is still being sold. It is NOT unlocked. Verizon can unlock it for international use, but they will not do so for someone who is not a Verizon customer.

Oct 21, 2013 1:35 AM in response to arun.agl

I glad to tell i have bought an at&t device from apple store iphone 5s device only and direct send it to india and my frd just unbox and inserted his airtel sim before activation and then connected to itunes it take upto 2 mins

And holla messege comes up ur phone is unlocked now so ithink my frd if u buy from apple store att device only it is sure that is factory unlocked u just activate right away with ur old sim

Nov 30, 2013 6:49 AM in response to firstrest

I purchased a 16GB iphone 5s gold from apple store in Atlanta. It was an ATT phone. I paid full price of $649 + tax from the apple store in atlanta (total $700.96). I opened it and plugged it into iTunes. I got the the message from Itunes that says congratulations this iphone is unlocked. I restored it and got that message again. So it appears it was unlocked since I payed full price.

Dec 3, 2013 10:49 AM in response to Hardtack

AKUSKA IS THE MAN!!

I'm an old poster and my concern was if buying the iPhone full price with that tmobile SIM card worked.... Well, I'm writing you guys from my 5s tmobile contract free... From Ethiopia! And worked in Italy with not one problem as well!!


Btw, just fell the need to come and say thanks to Akuska and the other positive guys! So people will stop saying that what they stated was incorrect!


And since I'm here: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!!

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