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  • doctorjo5 Level 1 (0 points)

    Same here. Really disappointed.

  • luizsaluti Level 1 (0 points)

    No surprise here!


    This is a really old bug which apple has been ignoring for years, why would they give any attention to that now?

  • justinis Level 1 (0 points)

    This is NOT an "old bug."  No-star smart playlists worked just fine on my iPhone 5 with iOS 6. iOS 7 broke them.

  • Zatixo Level 1 (0 points)

    Bug reportes since july 2013 during the beta. 1 year to fix it (supposing it will be fixed in ios8).

    That's an old bug.


    Bugs not fixed in a couple of month on a 800$ product is an old bug.

  • luizsaluti Level 1 (0 points)

    The no star rating bug is a new one. But what about nested smart playlists? What about smart playlists that ignore playcounts, last played, last skipped criteria? Those are bugs that exist since ios 5.

    Is that old enough for you?

  • doctorjo5 Level 1 (0 points)

    Guys, guys, there's no reason to fight among each other. You all should just go here to report the issue. Also, contact apple support either by chat or phone and tell them about the issue. I'm just going to turn off live updating on all of the smart playlists that I want to sync for now. It's not ideal but it's better than not having the playlists on my phone at all. Hopefully they will fix it sooner rather than later though. I figure the more people speak up on these threads, on the feedback site, and to apple support reps, the sooner the issue will get escalated to engineers who can actually do something to fix it.

  • justinis Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree, 1 year is too long. But the other smart playlist problems that have been around since iOS 5 are not what this thread is about. This thread is about a bug that's only been here since iOS7, so there's no need to criticize people for being "surprised" that it hasn't been fixed.


    I have reported the bug to Apple several times.

  • luizsaluti Level 1 (0 points)

    you are right, this thread is about the zero-star problem. But it seems apple is ignoring it as it has been ignoring the other music app related problems. I have already been throught that feedback site many times, reporting this issue. I encourage you all to do the same. I never got an answer though

  • troyzeboyze Level 1 (0 points)

    Adding 'playlist is Music' worked for me. Thanks

  • jaheath1974 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just chiming in here. I've often made made Smart Folders with an artist's name and had different takes on the catalogue under them with "All", "Rated", and "Unrated" being the common Smart Playlists contained within.  It's been a while since I had attempted to sync any of the "Unrated" playlists.  Pretty bummed that this is a bug that but that has apparently been known since the initial iOS 7 betas.

  • yatmandu Level 1 (0 points)

    I've had problems with smart playlists for a year now (ever since I switched to an iPhone 5 from my iPod touch for music). I basically transfer tunes from my desktop library to listen and rate on the iPhone, and then sync the ratings info back when I'm done listening to all the songs.


    Originally, with the touch, I would start with a blank rating and then add stars after listening to the songs on my iPhone. I used 0* ("unrated"), 1*, 2*, etc... smart playlists to sort.


    With iPhone 5, "unrated" or 0* simply wouldn't work for me, so I now start off with a rating of 1* as unrated...I also had to set the Media Type to Music as mentioned in this thread. That worked on and off. Basically, the 1* smart playlist miscounted the number of actual 1* (unrated) songs that were on the iPhone.


    I found that if I changed the rating of all the songs on iTunes viewing my iPhone's library to something else, and then back to 1*, the smart playlist would then work on the iPhone. Maybe "unrated" could work now as well, although I haven't tried it.


    My recipe then is:


    1. import new unrated songs into the iPhone which has 1*, 2*, 3*, 4*, and 5* smart playlists

    2. change the ratings of these new songs on the iPhone to 2*

    3. change it back to 1*

    4. Now the iPhone 1* smart list works ... lists all the songs

    5. Give songs a new rating: 2-5*

    6. iPhone playlists are updated accordingly


    As I said, with this re-rating, maybe 0* unrated smart playlists will work again...


    Message was edited by: yatmandu - clarifications

  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 (6,774 points)

    Intentionally rating something wrong, then re-rating it correctly, is not a suitable workaround for most, even if it did work (of which I'm skeptical).


    If you added the criteria "Media Kind is Music" that is not the right one, you need to add "Playlist is Music" to your criteria, then you should see the playlist contents match between iPhone and your library (or simply an accurate count of the rated songs within the smart playlist if you manually manage music on your device).

  • yatmandu Level 1 (0 points)

    The re-rating is done once, after songs are synced to the iPhone and have no rating yet, not eveytime you rate a song on the iPhone. The re-rating is done on the hwole selection of newly imported songs, via takes 1 minute at the most. By the way, I tried both "Media Kind is Music" and "Playlist is Music" and it didn't make any difference without the re-rating. They both led to incorrect playlists.


    You might be skeptical, but I'm not, since it works on my iPhone. As an added note, I manage everything manually re: iTunes library (no way I'd let this software make important decisions, like wiping out half my library or worse).

  • Rangeshooter Level 1 (0 points)

    Changing "Media Kind is Music" to "Playlist is Music" removes the smart playlist from iTunes Match because iTunes Match playlists cannot reference other playlists of which Music is one. Doing as you suggest would mean you have to sync locally with iTunes and can no longer uses iTunes Match to sync.

  • rockmyplimsoul Level 5 (6,774 points)

    Rangeshooter wrote:


    Changing "Media Kind is Music" to "Playlist is Music" removes the smart playlist from iTunes Match because iTunes Match playlists cannot reference other playlists of which Music is one. Doing as you suggest would mean you have to sync locally with iTunes and can no longer uses iTunes Match to sync.

    Yes I suppose that would be correct, for Match users.  I'm obviously not one who uses that service, and using Match may introduce a whole new layer of complications that have to be contended with.  Instead of using "Playlist is Music" have you tried unchecking "Live Update" in the playlist definition?  That essentially does what "Playlist is Music" does, it breaks Live Updating, which often cures problems like this.

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