******** BUG when Loop Recording MIDI

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******** BUG when Loop Recording MIDI

Here is a simple way to created the bug.

Make a little 4 bar loop, start recording midi, hold down a note at the end of the loop, as if you want the midi note to be held down until the end of the measure. You will not get what you want, it will instead cut off the last beat of the note region. ********? Yes. Or is my machine the only one this happens on?

Digital Audio G4, Mac OS X (10.4.5), Logic 7.2. Dual 1.8ghz G4, Mackie HR824, MAudio Keystation Pro,Sampletank XL 2.1

Posted on Jun 24, 2006 5:36 PM

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Jeffason Author

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Jun 25, 2006 3:57 AM in response to Jeffason

bump

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jord

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Jun 25, 2006 11:14 AM in response to Jeffason

That's not a bug. It would be a bug if it held the note inside a loop.

Create a new track under the same instrument (audio or MIDI instrument) and hold your note there.

jord

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Jeffason Author

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Jun 28, 2006 11:16 PM in response to jord

thanks for the reply however I think you have me mistaken...

It is not a bug if I want to hold a note until the last beat of the measure. Logic doesnt let me do this, it will cut off the last few miliseconds of the note. why would it be a bug to hold the note to the end of the measure?

That is why I think you have me mistaken and I believe this is a bug.

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xs4is

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Jun 28, 2006 11:21 PM in response to Jeffason

Does the held note end outside of the looped area?

If so, that's why it's not working. And that wouldn't be a bug because it's recording only in the area you told it to.

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Jeffason Author

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Jun 29, 2006 12:37 AM in response to xs4is

I dont end the note outside of the looped area, I just hold it down until the end of the measure, thinking I will get a note held until the end of the measure...

If I hold down a note until the end of the measure, or even past, shouldnt it cut the note off right at the end of the measure and not a few millseconds before? I've used other sequencers that handle this perfectly

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Jun 29, 2006 12:43 AM in response to Jeffason

why not just use the event or matrix editor to adjust the note length. then there would not be an issue. this issue could be because of the arrange preferences you have set, but if you open the matrix and hold control and drag the note out it will let you go to the end of the loop, or you could just tell it to be however long you wanted with the event editor.

hope this answers your question, or at least gives you a work around.

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Jeffason Author

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Jun 29, 2006 1:31 AM in response to frequent popsicle

"this issue could be because of the arrange preferences you have set"

I have tried tons of different midi tweaks, ensured my quantization is turned off.

I had requested earlier for someone to test this on a 4 bar loop to see if it only happens on my system.

4 bar loop, towards the end, hold down a note till the end of the measure, does your note really sustain until the end of the measure or does it get cut off a few miliseconds before?

I know and have been editing in the matrix editor, but c'mon now...

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jord

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Jun 29, 2006 5:07 AM in response to Jeffason

Where does it say that the note ends in the event editor? I have been able to sustain notes in loops until the end with no problems.

And, yes, I would know if the note cut out earlier.

jord

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Fred B

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Jun 29, 2006 5:58 AM in response to Jeffason

I had requested earlier for someone to test this on a
4 bar loop to see if it only happens on my system.

Ok, I did the test with recording a sustained note at 120 bpm. In fact, the note is cut off before the end of loop by 1/8 to 1/4 note somehow depending on the start of the sustained note. This can easily be seen in the matrix editor. So I think it's definitely a bug.

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Jun 29, 2006 6:08 PM in response to Fred B

I have seen this issue as well. That is why i suggested the work arounds. In the event list, jord can you not set the lenght of a note?

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Fred B

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Jun 30, 2006 2:54 AM in response to frequent popsicle

In the event list, jord can you not set the lenght of a note?

In fact, the event list isn't very helpful to expose the bug.
And obfuscation isn't helpful to make Logic better...

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Answer 12

Jun 30, 2006 3:34 AM in response to Fred B

i see. so denying the issue is a better way of helping than to admit there is an issue, and trying to give suggestions on how to fix the problem.
i gave two suggestions on where the orginal poster could verify/fix there problem.
you are the one who is being obfuscation (unintelligible) by trying to talk down to my willingness to help.
so please keep the board clean and do not use words that are going to confuse people even more than logic does.
i know you had to use the dictionary to sound intellegent, but i forgive you.(i guess what i mean by this is using words like obfuscation doesn't prove that you know how to use logic any better than i)

i am not here to make enemies, just to learn and share experiences.

to add:

you can use the event list to change the lenght of the notes to a specific bar, and if you had read the entire post the original poster admited that they used the matrix editor to verify the issue. both which i suggested.

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Fred B

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Jun 30, 2006 4:19 AM in response to frequent popsicle

Oops! Complete misunderstanding. Sorry.
I was just referring to jord's suggestion to verify the issue in the event list.

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Answer 14

Jun 30, 2006 8:46 AM in response to Fred B

i too am sorry for the rude comments. it was late, and i have had a hard time sleeping. please forgive me for acting arrogant. I will edit the post so that it doesn't cause a flame.

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Answer 15

Jun 30, 2006 8:47 AM in response to Fred B

Fred B,
it will not let me retract my post. sorry.

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