Does the airport express have an audio *INPUT* ?

Hello Audiophiles and Airport Express Experts!


I like to attach non-iOS devices to airplay speakers. Is there a way to do this via an airport express unit?


According to its technical specs the airport express has an "audio jack" for both digital and analog signals. BUT it does not really say wether this interface is an audio input or output. I would need to use it as an audio input ... basically, feeding a digital audio signal via the airport express to the airplay speakers.


If airport express is not suitable for this, what other wireless adapters are "out there"?


Thanks for any help.

Posted on Sep 22, 2013 4:06 AM

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Sep 22, 2013 10:46 AM in response to macobs30

The audio port on the AirPort Express (AX) is for audio output only. Audio streams are input to the Express via the AirPlay protocol. There are no physical audio input port(s) on the device. Sorry!


For the AX, audio input is primarily provided by iTunes. Of course, it can also get input from other sources like Rogue Amoeba's Airfoil.


iTunes does most of the work. When iTunes plays back standard audio content (AAC, MP3, audiobooks, Internet music streams, etc., it decompresses those file formats and creates what's essentially a raw, uncompressed audio stream. That stream is compressed using Apple's Lossless Compression (via a QuickTime codec), encrypted, and then, streamed (via AirTunes/AirPlay) to the AX. The AX decrypts the stream, decodes it, and outputs it in either analog format or as a digital PCM stream.



If iTunes is playing back a digital multichannel file format like AC3 (Dolby Digital) or DTS, those bitstreams (like the lossy formats) are wrapped in Apple's Lossless compression, encrypted, and then, streamed to the AX. In these cases, the AX would first decode the stream, and then, output the raw AC3 or DTS stream via its optical digital audio port.

Sep 22, 2013 12:17 PM in response to Tesserax

Get a dac that has an tos input. Plug the tos cable from ax to the dac then to the audio equipment. There is so many types of dacs. I have been using the one from radio shack due to being inexpensive.


Then you can play aiff files from itunes via computer or ios and airplay or there is a few apps that will play flac files.


Or convert all the lossless audio to aiff and get like pogo plug or a nas

Sep 22, 2013 12:20 PM in response to Tesserax

Thank you. This is very helpful info!


The BD player is also DVB-C set-top box for the TV, which itself does not have a DVB-C decoder. We like to have the normal TV sound streaming to wireless speakers, preferably airplay speakers, without running a computer (iMac or MBP). We also have the Apple TV G2, which basically has only two audio outputs: AirPlay and the optical connector. My pretty old but excellent stereo does not have optical input...


So now I am looking into a system that can do everything: AirPlay without running any OSX device (except for an Airport WiFi router) and also taking streams from other audio sources. This is based on the WAF - (wife acceptance factor).


After googleing all afternoon, I kind of found a system that could do the job: Active speaker systems, which accept dual- or multi-source input, i.e. AirPlay, analog, and digital audio input. Then I could get a bluetoothtransmitter for audio, such as the TRX1 from b-speech, for non-iOS devices.


This would become relatively complex and would turn my home into a large-scale microwave oven...


Still in the process of figuring it all out.


Maybe all I need is a new TV with airplay support.... This is how this industry wants you - or at least me - to think ... and act ;-)

Sep 22, 2013 12:24 PM in response to Tielor1223

DAC! Very good point.


This is what I had in mind as well and what I kind of do now. I take the audio output from the TV and plugged it into aux input of the stereo. That works very well with any kind of input to the TV (BD player and atv2).


I just like to have a solution, where I do not always have to turn on the TV or the stereo. That's why I am looking into active speaker systems now...

Sep 22, 2013 12:30 PM in response to Tesserax

Sorry, I was not very specific...


The main idea is to find a solution for my various generations of audio outputs. If I could run it all through an AX with AirPlay, that would be by far the easiest solution and would integrate my older stereo components to a not-yet purchased airplay-based wireless system.


I have an old but excellent stereo and I am, therefore, somewhat hesitant in investing into all new devices,...

Sep 22, 2013 12:43 PM in response to macobs30

That WAF is always the killer when wanting to get the cool stuff.


My set up is 1 AirPort Extreme, 2 airport expresses, 1 Apple TV. With this I can intercom my kids room in the morning to wake up for school if he is not up yet (or play music).


The Apple TV and one of the ax's are next each other because when I watch movies I want to use the Apple TV to be both the sound and video going into receiver. If I want to listen to music I will use the express and use the tos to the dac (I wanted a more expensive dac, but the WAF was unacceptable)--the radio shack supports 24 bit 192 hz it just doesn't have the little indication lights telling what it is getting.


I don't think having video going from one device and then Airplaying to another for sound would be solid yet. Ape doesn't give us the ability to change the lag times to sync up voice and data in the ios devices. We do have that ability in itunes. I haven't messed with it though. Depending on your home network your voice may lag behind the video. If we could add QOS to the packets streaming audio it may be possible. When you stream to one device and that one device controls both hand off's to tv for video and receiver for sound that one device is buffering them together. When you mix the routes you have two devices buffering sound and video separately.


The only exception to this is when you try and play movies on a windows pc the sound still lags. But then we can adjust that in itunes.

Sep 23, 2013 1:18 PM in response to Tielor1223

Thank you for the detailed answer.


Synchronization between audio and video is a very good point!


Actually, if you are using VLC (OSX) or GoodPlayer (iOS), then you could adjust a ton of options as well. Both programs support Airplay. With GoodPlayer you need to activate the option hardware acceleration. It does not work for rented DRM movies, though. But it is great for home and vacation videos.


The idea of the active-speaker system with Airplay and AX grows on me. This way the synchronization should be maintained. I will figure out some adapter or converter to connect the two worlds. It is kind of strange, that apple does not support this...


Thanks again everyone for the great help and showing me the different options!

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