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Can I downgrade from ISO 7 to 6.1.3

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  • NYCSKP Calculating status...
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    Dec 3, 2013 7:33 PM (in response to David Shanahan)

    I really just want to see all years on one map and not have to toggle across different years to find that photo in DC or Oahu, where I visit every year.  Is that so hard?

     

    Is there some hardware or software rule that prevents us from having a CHOICE?  A simple toggle, old view or new view?  Or three different views, or more?

     

    You know, Apple can add one feature without removing the earlier one. 

     

    Do you see what I'm saying? Can't we have BOTH?

     

    Thanks.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,465 points)
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    Dec 3, 2013 8:01 PM (in response to NYCSKP)

    NYCSKP wrote:

     

    Do you see what I'm saying? Can't we have BOTH?

    Only Apple would know why they made that particular UI decision. Submit your feedback directly to Apple using the appropriate link on the Feedback page:


    http://www.apple.com/feedback

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (44,840 points)
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    Dec 3, 2013 8:36 PM (in response to David Shanahan)

    Because of the new OpenGSL and kernel iOS 7 requires more than 256MB just to load. That would be a major issue.

  • SSRRDD Calculating status...
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    Dec 3, 2013 10:22 PM (in response to Mohammed 108)

    Of course, I mean 512 MB, not 1 GB. Sorry for the mistake. Otherwise, my post is correct.

  • David Shanahan Level 2 Level 2 (405 points)
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    Dec 3, 2013 11:32 PM (in response to SSRRDD)

    No it's not, it's almost completely wrong. As I said it's not a RAM issue with iOS (as long as you have at least 512MB), it's mostly about CPU/GPU speed. iOS is optimised for the A5 and later chipsets (i.e the 4s and above). However, it's not that iOS 7 won't run on an iPhone 4, it runs fine on an iPhone 4 if you configure it correctly.

     

    There are about a kajillion articles on the web describing what settings to adjust to make iOS 7 run better on an iPhone 4.

  • SSRRDD Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 3, 2013 11:41 PM (in response to David Shanahan)

    No, the post is correct.

     

    I have iPhone 4S, and became much less useful because apps always get killed by the iOS 7 because there is much less free memory, comparing to iOS 6.

     

    Memory issue is what ruins consumer experience, not speed issues.

  • raymond73 Level 3 Level 3 (860 points)
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    Dec 4, 2013 4:53 AM (in response to SSRRDD)

    SSRRDD wrote:

     

    Memory issue is what ruins consumer experience, not speed issues.

    I guess you have never used a Raspberry PI with 32 gig of memory.

  • SSRRDD Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 4, 2013 11:23 AM (in response to raymond73)

    We are talking about Apple products. Even iPhone 4 is not slow per se (except for graphics, and this is why Appe limits iOS 7 transitions on that phone). But if the phone takes few second to restart an application every times you switch from one to another because OS body takes more memory in RAM comparing to previous version, then it shows significantly.

  • Sarvar_benom Calculating status...
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    Dec 8, 2013 2:30 PM (in response to Axeman1020)

    how can you help all of us ???????  ios7 really slows on iPhone 4 and ios7's design is awfull !!  

  • Massaponax Calculating status...
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    Dec 9, 2013 8:49 AM (in response to ngk22r)

    My iPhone 4 i turtle speed slow on iOS 7. Apple you came up with an awsome marketing stradegy bu I can't upgrade my phone for a year. So guess I'm stuck with an slow phone for the next year. Thanks apple for being a company that cares bout your customers. What they should does in offer evrybody on A4 devices a downgrade to iOS 6.1.3 which worked fine by the way. THey dropped the A4 iPad 1 for a reason. Why would the iPhone A4 chip e any better. Yes it is a retina device but the hardware can't keep up with the software. Please let the iPhone 4 people have a downgrade. Plus I really don't want to jailbreak my phone because one it's on a contract and two jailbreaks can contain viruses and three iOS 7.0.4 is not possible to jailbreak as of now. So if Apple really gives a hoot about there customers they should offer a downgrade to iOS 6.1.3. Now as for how good the OS is it is awsome. To be honest it is the best mobile OS I have ever used. I cannot love the interface though if it is laggy and slow. And for you tech buffs out there, yes  did turn on Icrease contrast (which geet rid of the blurring) and reduce motion (which turs off the parralax efect). So it should run fine. But it runs like my 7 year old windows xp laptop. Apple I know your scared about device compatibiliry and OS fragmentaion, but for the next year or two most apple app store apps should be able to be iOS 5+compatible. In my mind I would be happy to have iOS 6.1.3 for another year. Maily because I would like to upgrade in a year to whatever come next which should have the next OS based on your hstory as a company, but we all know rummors aren't always true.

    So what am I asking Apple, I am asking that you offer JUST iPhone 4 owners a downgrade to iOS 6.1.3 and take away the notification to upgrade to iOS seven. Just use it the critism from Android and Windows as constructive critism. We can't alway be right, but we do have to admit mistakes.

  • TJBUSMC1973 Level 5 Level 5 (4,670 points)
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    Dec 9, 2013 9:44 AM (in response to Massaponax)

    Massaponax wrote:

     

    My iPhone 4 i turtle speed slow on iOS 7. Apple you came up with an awsome marketing stradegy bu I can't upgrade my phone for a year. So guess I'm stuck with an slow phone for the next year. Thanks apple for being a company that cares bout your customers. What they should does in offer evrybody on A4 devices a downgrade to iOS 6.1.3 which worked fine by the way. THey dropped the A4 iPad 1 for a reason. Why would the iPhone A4 chip e any better. Yes it is a retina device but the hardware can't keep up with the software. Please let the iPhone 4 people have a downgrade. Plus I really don't want to jailbreak my phone because one it's on a contract and two jailbreaks can contain viruses and three iOS 7.0.4 is not possible to jailbreak as of now. So if Apple really gives a hoot about there customers they should offer a downgrade to iOS 6.1.3. Now as for how good the OS is it is awsome. To be honest it is the best mobile OS I have ever used. I cannot love the interface though if it is laggy and slow. And for you tech buffs out there, yes  did turn on Icrease contrast (which geet rid of the blurring) and reduce motion (which turs off the parralax efect). So it should run fine. But it runs like my 7 year old windows xp laptop. Apple I know your scared about device compatibiliry and OS fragmentaion, but for the next year or two most apple app store apps should be able to be iOS 5+compatible. In my mind I would be happy to have iOS 6.1.3 for another year. Maily because I would like to upgrade in a year to whatever come next which should have the next OS based on your hstory as a company, but we all know rummors aren't always true.

    So what am I asking Apple, I am asking that you offer JUST iPhone 4 owners a downgrade to iOS 6.1.3 and take away the notification to upgrade to iOS seven. Just use it the critism from Android and Windows as constructive critism. We can't alway be right, but we do have to admit mistakes.

     

    Apple has never, and (probably) will never offer iOS downgrades, for many, many technical reasons.  If you absolutely, positively, MUST have an iPhone that uses iOS 6, get an iPhone 3GS.  That's your only option.

  • ritelec Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 10, 2013 5:50 AM (in response to TJBUSMC1973)

    If you absolutely, positively, MUST have an iPhone that uses iOS 6, get an iPhone 3GS.  That's your only option.

     

    Option 2:

    I too was suckered into my iphone 4/ mobile carrier contract... iphone 4 was terrible after the update to 7.......

     

    Bunk that... was an upgrade not an update......but.......

     

    So purchased 3 5s's and if I purchased a ipad mini was able to keep my contract in good standing and trade in the 4 for credit toward the mini.

     

    Also picked up a 4s.

     

    The 4s and ipad mini came thru with ios6.........

     

    The update (  ha ha ha ) is highlighted on the devices, and I have given the suggestion to the users of these devices NOT to update (ha ha ha  ...upgrade)

  • citationcj2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Dec 23, 2013 7:11 AM (in response to Mohammed 108)

    Of couse you can.

     

    Easy process. i have done it on two of my iphones and all via Itunes.

    Download 6.1.3 ipsw files, restore via Itunes and hold shift in Windows or Alt in mac to select the downloaded file. Itunes will do the rest.

     

    I suposse people here are saying NO, but has anyone actually done it before you all say no??

     

    Good luck

  • Sharif 123 Calculating status...
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    Dec 23, 2013 1:22 PM (in response to Axeman1020)

    EVERY BODY KNOWS IOS 7 HAS PROBLEM. HOW DO YOU IGNORE IT?

    IOS7 DOES NOT WORK ON iPHONE 4. They should let Iphone 4 users to downgrade.

    Unless they would keep using downgrade stuff in the internet,

  • zelous Level 3 Level 3 (635 points)
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    Dec 23, 2013 2:12 PM (in response to Sharif 123)

    i know plenty of people that enjoy the ios 7... on their iphone 4's and 4S's. if u dont like the ios 7 then u could always just... get a different phone :O

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