Q: ios7 keeps refreshing apps after switching
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Jan 12, 2014 12:39 AMby gail from maine,You are completely misinformed and your theories are completely flawed. Apple has never provided a path for downgrading iOS releases. Downgrading an iOS causes more problems than it solves. It is not the same as downgrading an OS on a computer, which you can do on any Mac. An iOS device, however, is not a computer, and the iOS upgrade touches almost every aspect of the device, its internals and its apps.
Downgrading would result in more issues than any that you are currently having. Also, many of the apps that you have on your device have been upgraded to run on iOS 7. How would those get re-installed?
Certainly people have issues with a new release, but over 500 million devices are running iOS 7, so relatively speaking, you are not looking at a huge number of users with issues....
GB
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Jan 12, 2014 12:45 AMby chronicon helveticum,I would say Miellino was very much on topic. If you read through the posts from the beginning on this thread you will see that it concerns iOS 7’s inability to adequately maintain the state of background tasks. When this works properly, as it usually did in iOS 5 and iOS 6, it gives the user the useful impression of multitasking even if true multitasking, as you say, is not actually taking place. The setting you talk about refers to the iOS 7’s ability to regularly update the data in background tasks and has no effect on iOS 7’s woeful inability to maintain a background app's overall state.
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Jan 12, 2014 1:05 AMby Miellino,The true trouble is multitasking and Emmett usage of app.
Update app on background is not useful.
All apps that have that settings works the same of missing one:
No app stay on background , also an iOS Native app like Safari
iOS 7 flush memory of background app when he need memory
for foreground current app.
So when you come back to a background app like safari you
must wait to a refresh/reset and you are pushed at the beginning
Waiting 2/5 seconds all time, plus the need to remake a login if needed
IOS 7 users are gone back of three years
People that doesn't understand this is because that them doens't use phone :
they only make call and use Facebook app
But I say to them that is not a Facebook App issue if
when you reopen app you lost your position on timeline
and restart all the time.
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Jan 12, 2014 2:39 AMby paulfromstone,This thread IS about "multitasking" (or iOS's simulation of it) being defective in iOS 7.
Please be assured that it effects EVERY ONE of those 500 million devices you mention, even if their users don't realise it.
The issue appears to be a memory leak in the guts of the system, possibly related to graphics. The memory is only released upon a hard reset, or the use of a 'memory optimiser' app.
I've installed iOS 7.1 beta 3, and it's not fixed. I'm certain that Apple know of the issue, and I'd bet that they did before the release of iOS 7, but are unable to fix it. iOS 7 would not have been released under Steve Jobs.
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Jan 12, 2014 5:29 AMby Wislez Philippe,re-Hi gail from maine,
First of all an iphone is a Computer nothing else.
Second Apple has never stopped you from downgrading your device, you was able to do it in iTunes were still signing the firmware on their server (they stopped it the 28 of september 2013 if i remember the date)
If you downgrade from 7 to 6 (if this was possible) your additional apps need to be reinstalled directly from the Store and not from you iTunes backup (no restore).
The Store identify your iOS version and download you the right app version for your installed iOS!
I Did it again yesterday downloading GoodReader, Movie Player on my Apple 1 (first version of the ipad) which is running iOS5... it directly identified my iOS and told me that they have a higher version but due to my iOS version they will install the highest version supported by my iDevice.
Greets
Phil
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Jan 12, 2014 5:30 AMby Maddawg777,gail from maine wrote:
You are completely misinformed and your theories are completely flawed. Apple has never provided a path for downgrading iOS releases. Downgrading an iOS causes more problems than it solves. It is not the same as downgrading an OS on a computer, which you can do on any Mac. An iOS device, however, is not a computer, and the iOS upgrade touches almost every aspect of the device, its internals and its apps.
Downgrading would result in more issues than any that you are currently having. Also, many of the apps that you have on your device have been upgraded to run on iOS 7. How would those get re-installed?
Certainly people have issues with a new release, but over 500 million devices are running iOS 7, so relatively speaking, you are not looking at a huge number of users with issues....
GB
Gail,
Speaking of "misinformed"
http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-ios-7-downgrade-ios-6-no-longer-possible-1411258
As you can see here it is/was possibkle to downgrade to 6. Apple chose to make it no longer possible. Furthermore, Could you tell me, as well as link to me, the specifics in the hardware/software and firmware, that would make what you claim about downgrading true? I am just a guy with an IT/IS consulting company and I would love to learn about how this would be such a problem as you claim.
Those apps are backwards compatible btw, or they still have ios6 versions available. and the random app currently designed for 7 only many of us would be happy to live without.
Blackberry once had "500 million users" or were the top of the food chain, thier problem was they stopped innovating. Apple has stopped innovating and has even gone further as to not address bugs....
There are 500 million devices, sure, but as technology advances, apple if it want's to stay where it is, needs to advance it's technology and at least fix glaring bugs in it's ios.
Or risk suffering the fate of bbry.
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Jan 12, 2014 10:39 AMby ERSinclair,Gail from main.
This is a topic about multitasking and app refreshing/reloading. And there is no setting that solves our problem. You apparently don't have the problem or the answer. Apple will not own up to this and recognize its a problem because bottom line, it makes them money. The are counting on all the iSheep blindly following and loving the emperor's new clothes. The emperor is naked. We can see right through his new clothes. We are not sheep. We see these features as bugs. I've stated this before, Apple loves this reloading because it increases the hit counts of Apple devices on Internet. It has the effect of quadrupling your data usage which makes the service providers more money and that profit is shared with Apple.
And how do you figure an iPhone is not a computer?
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Jan 12, 2014 1:46 PMby Hugoniot,I tried two different things. The first time I set the iPad 2 back to factory defaults, I then used one of my old backups to get the iPad usable again. So I tried a second time without recovering from backups. But I still had the app refresh problem.
I set the iPad 2 back to factory defaults a second time, and again did not use any previous backup. This time, I also didn't sign into iCloud. With no previous backup and no previous iCloud settings, this should behave like a brand new iPad 2.
I have only been using it for about one day, but so far I have not seen the refresh problem. I have not signed into iCloud at all. So now I wonder if iCloud is causing the problems? I will keep using it in the upcoming week and see if the problem appears.
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Jan 12, 2014 4:14 PMby ERSinclair,Gail From Maine,
When I go to settings, general, background app refresh, safari is not even an option. I have no clue as to why you have it and I don't.
Early on into diagnosing this problem we all tried turning off background app refreshing for all apps and it did not resolve the problem. Please understand this problem manifests itself somewhat randomly and it's not only with Safari.
I would ask all people with this problem to contact Apple tech support to attempt to get this problem resolved. They should point out this discussion and don't settle for being told to backup and restore. Clearly, many have tried this and it has not resolved anyone's problem.
