cubfanal wrote:
You know I just now almost bought a used iphone on eBay boy am I glad I caught this thread.
Now that I have thought about this issue I am not sure how I feel. If you got the phone from a carrier cheaper because there was a contract and then fulfilled that contract, it is your phone to sell, right? So if you sell it the person who buys it has the right to use it.
I have never had an iphone now maybe I don't want one!
But wait....if the phone is clean with the carrier and then stolen you as the one it was stolen from have no recourse except the knowledge that no one will be able to use it because of the ID lock.
So maybe I do want an iphone....
The one thing I can see here, as I follow this thread, is that it is buyer beware. Especially on eBay or Craigslist where you may have no recourse. Cause if you go to update the software a month or a year later and you are locked out you are locked out...
Folks are so inundated with so many passwords and log ons but maybe it is your responsibility to write stuff down and put it a safe place...but if Apple snuck in the provision of ID lock and people did not realize that by doing a software upgrade on their newly bought second hand phone they will not own a paperweight, and the sell did not know or did not care....
At least if you buy it on eBay there is recourse...a private sale good luck...
Anyone who does own an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch does indeed have the right to sell it privately to whomever they want, whenever they want, how ever they want. Nothing about Activation Lock stops any owner from selling their device.
However, as a responsible seller, they need to:
1. disable find my iPhone in their iCloud account settings on their device
2. erase all content and settings (and thus, put the device back to an as-new, un-activated device)
Anyone selling their iOS device who does those two simple things will have be able to sell their device to anyone, and the buyer can readily activate and use the device without any issues at all.
The use of Activation Lock, its initial setup and its disablement is entirely within the control of the device owner.
As to the right of someone to use some piece of private property they bought, I know of no such enshrined legal right. If you buy from a trustworthy seller, who exercises their ethical responsibility in the sale of the item, and you should have no problem. However, private party sales of private property are a matter of items strictly "as is". You choose to buy what you wish to, but there is no guarantee at all with any such private exchange.