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  • Alfminus_01 Level 1 Level 1

    Apple should just fix the issue of Safari crashing rather than getting the users to reset their ipads darn

    lazy arn't they !!!

  • xdapao Level 1 Level 1

    I have been looking for impressions on beta 3 on other Apple-centric forums too and beta 3 doesn't solve much and introduces bugs of its own to boot.

     

    After lots of trials and errors and "building knowledge" on this whole issue I feel we are dealing with 2 largely separate issues here:

     

    - iOS7's bugs (this o.s. really, REALLY felt like an unfinished beta when it was released and has really not improved much in the long months since...)

     

    - first gen 64bit iDevices' insufficient RAM and an architecture which seems far away from getting adequate SW support.

     

    So there are less issues with 32bit iDevices, especially those with 1GB of RAM (and, most importantly, those are FIXABLE issues via software updates! although I have a feeling it will be a long wait...) and more issues on 64bit ones (part of which CANNOT be fixed via software, just like iPhone4's Antennagate and iPad3's inadequate specs couldn't be fixed via software...).

  • dhdfoster Level 1 Level 1

    ^^^^^^^^

     

    If this turns out to be the case, I'm extremely disappointed in my purchase.  I'm relatively new to Apple products, but I've had nothing but issues with Safari on my iPad AIR.  I bought it because it was supposed to be "better" than my iPad 2. 

  • Tribeca90 Level 1 Level 1

    After erasing all content and restoring as new device didn't work, the Genius Bar did what he said was a more thorough erase of the device (I think it erased the firmware.) He said there was a 98 % chance it would resolve the problem. It did not. Back to the Genius Bar, where I was told diagnostics showed a memory problem. They suggested keeping other apps closed when using safari. No better. More frustration.

  • roadkill_97006 Level 1 Level 1

    If diagnostics showed a memory problem then they should replace it.  No more attempting to cure it with "fresh air and sunshine"!

  • ronfromtoronto Level 1 Level 1

    Too funny these geniuses with their calculations 98% chance! restore as new don't load any data! your apps are crashing the iPad logic.  It's the Apple apps that shouldn't be installed aka Safari. Safari is the new internet Explorer

  • Beano70 Level 1 Level 1

    So what are you trying to say?

     

    That a clean restore will solve the problems?

     

    It doesn't.

  • xdapao Level 1 Level 1

    roadkill_97006 wrote:

     

    If diagnostics showed a memory problem then they should replace it.  No more attempting to cure it with "fresh air and sunshine"!

    The "memory problem" is that there is too little of it, period.
    Replacing the device (or restoring it, or setting it as new or any other pointless time-wasting try we are told to attempt) solves NOTHING.

     

     

    In iOS7 there surely are memory leaks and bugs of all sorts but the problem is here to stay even when (and who knows when that will be...) Apple will finally fix all of the iOS7's bugs and bad memory management because 1GB of RAM on 64bit devices is like 512MB on the iPad3: bloody useless.

  • roadkill_97006 Level 1 Level 1

    If my iPad Air was half as stable as my iPad 3 I'd be happy.  The solution is, as you say, fix the memory management.  If necessary, kick out background apps to free memory up.  It's like they kick out the running app instead.  Google Earth constantly groans about being low on memory, but hasn't crashed.

  • xdapao Level 1 Level 1

    roadkill_97006 wrote:

     

    If my iPad Air was half as stable as my iPad 3 I'd be happy.  The solution is, as you say, fix the memory management.  If necessary, kick out background apps to free memory up.  It's like they kick out the running app instead.  Google Earth constantly groans about being low on memory, but hasn't crashed.

    You already can disable background apps "auto-refresh" and it solves nothing. Other mobile operating systems have REAL multitasking and can run in 1GB RAM without issue (yes with a limited number of active apps running at the same time but with WORKING and REALLY MULTITASKING background processes active).

     

    iOS's "multitasking", OTOH, is still very much a work in progress and Apple doesn't seem to be able to crack it yet...

     

    Upping the RAM would go a long way towards alleviating these issues (and it would give a MUCH better experience even once the problems are fixed as you could run MORE apps, you could have MORE tabs in the browser and so on without having to reload them every time you switch between them losing your inputted data, the zoom level, the position in the page/app and so on...) but they seem to go the OPPOSITE way: on 64bit iDevices the already ludicrous 1GB RAM is even "smaller" as 64bit apps have a larger memory footprint (and iOS7 is quite "heavier" itself as the free memory available has become smaller even on 32bit 1GB RAM iDevices once they are updated to iOS7).

  • roadkill_97006 Level 1 Level 1

    Disabling auto refresh wouldn't help.  Actually getting the things out of memory might.  I agree that Apple has massively booted this version of iOS.  Personally I hate iOS 7.  I believe that instead of bowing to the "great guru" Mr Ive and his "all things should look like flat c..p" fetish, Apple should have concentrated on taking care of business and debugging.  I miss Steve.  :)  Safari is a bad joke even without the crashes.

  • prawlin Level 1 Level 1

    I agree. IOS7 is total c--p.

    Please bring back iOS6. It was way way better in every respect. I wish apple would listen to their customers a bit more than they appear to do.

     

    I don't agree that the crashing came along with iPad air hardware. My previously totally stable ipad3 started crashing when I inadvertently 'upgraded' to the dire iOS7 system. The level and frequency of my air crashes are apparently identical to what my ipad3 was after iOS7 install. I reckon the safari crashing is purely  naff software.

  • Katuak Level 1 Level 1

    My visit to the Genius Bar - denial of anyone with this problem and suggesting yet another restore would solve it. You know the answer to that one. I showed them this thread. They swapped my iPad. Still the same.

    I can see a shiny new Air being rushed out, rather than a software fix. Doubtful that a software fix would work. My Air crashes on Chrome too. Not as often, but it happens.

    Some indication that they're aware of the problem would be very welcome.

     

    How do I close all background apps as procedure seems to have changed from the iPad 3? Yhanks

  • ronfromtoronto Level 1 Level 1

    Installing iOS 7 on my iPad 3 was the biggest mistake in my iLife. When the Air came out it looked like the holy grail to solve my problems , lighter thinner and faster.

     

    Boy was I wrong. When my iPad 3 first restarted with iOs 7 my wallpaper no longer looked great , it crashed when I tried changing it. Safari couldn't load a page if it's life depended on it.

     

    IOS 7 reminds me of my HTC OneX with Sense. Every time I switch between apps everything has to reload and refresh. Not even 1 tab can stay fully loaded.

  • richjh Level 1 Level 1

    I upgraded to IOS 7 the minute it became available and my new IPad Air, iPad 4th generation iPhone and MacBook Pro are as solid as a rock. My wife also upgraded and she has not experienced any of the problems that you have been experiencing, not one crash, so something else must be going on. You said Apple replaced your Air and you had the same problem. All I can guess reading this post is that your memory was corrupt in your replacement as well. I hate to say this but I would insist Apple replace your Air again. Fool around with the units in the Apple Store. I think you will find these units do not crash. I most certaitly feel your pain and frustration.

    Rich

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