How do I get my font suitcase fonts on my old Mac to my new 10.8.5 mac?

Hi Everyone,


I recently bough a new mac laptop becaue my desktop mac was running slow and not letting me use my design applications properly (freezing, crashing, and in general just being slow). I am a graphic designer, and have fonts on my old desktop mac that I need to have on my new laptop mac for client work.


I went thru my old mac (I am not sure what original version it is, but it had been upgraded a few times to the 10.6.8), found all of the fonts and collected them into one folder, placed it on my new mac, and proceeded to install the fonts. The problem that I am having is that my old mac has a lot of fonts that are a font suitcase file, instead of a regular font format, and I cannot install these onto my new mac.


I do not have access to any other forms of these fonts, so I only have the font suitcase versions.


Is there something that I can do to make these install? It's becoming a pain to have to open up a document on my old mac to get the font and then outline it and open it on the new one (since the old one runs slow).


Any help is much appreciated!


Thanks,

Melissa

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 1, 2013 8:37 AM

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Posted on Oct 1, 2013 9:30 AM

You're losing the resource fork data from one, or both of the Type 1 PostScript files on the way over to the new Mac. On the old Mac, copy the fonts onto a Mac formatted USB thumb drive. Bring it over to the new Mac and copy them to its hard drive. As long as they maintain their size, they'll work. Make sure to keep them together in the same folder. T1 PS fonts will not work if they are separated.

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Oct 1, 2013 9:30 AM in response to msones07

You're losing the resource fork data from one, or both of the Type 1 PostScript files on the way over to the new Mac. On the old Mac, copy the fonts onto a Mac formatted USB thumb drive. Bring it over to the new Mac and copy them to its hard drive. As long as they maintain their size, they'll work. Make sure to keep them together in the same folder. T1 PS fonts will not work if they are separated.

Oct 1, 2013 8:54 AM in response to msones07

Which type of suitcase fonts are you referring to? Mac legacy TrueType, or Type 1 PostScript? For the latter, you also need to copy of the matching outline printer fonts, and they must be kept together in the same folder. But either works just fine in Mountain Lion. I have tons of them from way back.


The main problem with either is that Apple has usurped Helvetica for most of the older fonts by giving their versions the same internal names, so many old Helvetica and Helvetica Neue fonts conflict with the ones Apple installs with the OS. Pretty much anything else should work. Newer OpenType versions of Helvetica work because they have different internal names, so can exist alongside Apple's fonts.


What are you doing to install the fonts? Adding them through Font Book, or manually placing them in a folder?

Jan 7, 2014 6:31 AM in response to marhal

Fonts are greyed out when I 'add' through Font Book, and a workaround of putting directly into Library/fonts wouldn't let me (error message).


You will get that if you try to bring over only the outline portion of a Type 1 Poscript set.


Type 1 PostScript fonts are a set. One file is a suitcase containing all of the low res bitmap screen fonts. The rest are the outline printer fonts. As an example, here's Adobe Garamond.


Adobe Garamond

AGarBol

AGarBolIta

AGarIta

AGarReg

AGarSem

AGarSemIta


The first file which I highlighted in green is the font suitcase of bitmap screen fonts. The rest are the outline printer fonts.


1) The files for a Type 1 PostScript font must have both the screen and printer fonts for a given set in order to work. They also must be in the same folder.


2) The suitcase of bitmap fonts will work alone, but output will be terrible since the system will print the fonts using the 72 dpi screen fonts in the suitcase if the outline portions are missing.


3) Having only the outline fonts will not work. You will get exactly what you are having problems with. You can see the fonts, but they will not load. That's not a problem with Font Book, Suitcase or other font manager. None of them, nor the system itself will load outline fonts from a Type 1 PostScript font without the matching suitcase of screen fonts present.

Oct 1, 2013 9:19 AM in response to msones07

I am not sure, how would I find that out?

You kind of have to know ahead of time. But here's one example of a Type 1 PostScript font:


User uploaded file


The suitcase here has .scr (short for screen fonts) tacked on. Sometimes it will say .bmap (bitmapped screen fonts, same thing). Many won't have any extension. It doesn't matter if they do or not. This particular font has only one matching printer font. The suitcase will have at least as many screen fonts in it as there are outline fonts for the set.


A Mac legacy TrueType font will have the same icon and also have a Kind description of "font suitcase". There really isn't anything that will easily set them apart to know which one you have.

Oct 1, 2013 9:09 AM in response to Kurt Lang

I am not sure, how would I find that out?


I just know that I went thru all of the hiding spots (that I know of) for fonts on the old mac, copied them and put them in a folder to xfer to the new one.


To install them, I selected 20 or so at a time, and double clicked for them to open up fontbook and install, and then only installed the ones that did not have any issues.


Thanks for the reply.

Oct 1, 2013 9:26 AM in response to Kurt Lang

I exported one of my fonts from the old mac, and it gave me 2 fonts in a folder, but when I go to install them on the new mac, it still tells me it's the 'Unix Executible File', but when on the old mac it tells me that one is a Font Suitcase and the other is the Postscrypt Type 1 (for this particular font).


User uploaded file


So frustrating when things don't play nicely 😟


Thanks for all of the help so far.

Jan 6, 2014 2:55 PM in response to msones07

Same problem. Fonts are greyed out when I 'add' through Font Book, and a workaround of putting directly into Library/fonts wouldn't let me (error message).


I upgraded to a new iMac w/OS 10.9.1


I have not tried reformatting a USB yet, will do this. But I'm thinking I need to see first what files exist and are compatable, do some sorting before I move. what files exactly am I looking for for 10.9.1 in my font folders? I have originals on CD's (new imac = no CD drive but I can start over, copy on to USB, etc.).


Is the problem really the transfer of files before installing? I dragged onto an external and am trying to reinstall from that drive -


ANY help on this would be great. I have several projects in progress and have already transferred my Adobe CC liscenses to the new computer and need to get it up and running w/fonts I used to be able to use!!!


S.O.S.


thank you!!!

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