Is an iPad of help to someone with low vision?

I have an elderly low vision (legally blind) relative in the UK. (I'm in Canada.) I'm wondering if an iPad would work for her and make it easier to do email and listen to her audio books? Or any other things that can assist her. Any info would be helpful. With not being there I don't want to promise it will be better, but I'm hoping others can point me to all the things an iPad can help her with better than an ancient computer that she doesn't understand and it doesn't work well. I live on my iPad and know how wonderful it is, but in not sure what is available for persons both elderly and that have low vision. Thank you for any help.

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Posted on Oct 6, 2013 1:58 PM

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Oct 10, 2013 8:54 AM in response to Brew_too

Hi Brew_Too,


First, when I got back to this this AM, I read and hadn't noticed that "... your cousin may be willing to buy one." That's good and it eliminates any concern I thought you might have in buying an ipad in Canada for use in the UK.


And yes, the ipad does have audio books. In the USA and Canada there are some libraries and organizations that lend out audio books for vision impaired people (with proof) for free. Audio books are not cheap. Maybe her son and DIL can look into that.


http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/#vision


http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/


I hope you're finding that an ipad can be very helpful to your cousin.


The outrageous cost of ipads in the UK vs. USA seems ridiculous to me. You might want to consider having your cousin buy the ipad in the online Certified Refurbished UK Apple Store. They come with a new front and back cover, a brand new battery and a full one year warranty. It is boxed as if it's a new ipad (it just says certified refurbished on the bottom. So when they get it, they'd feel and it will work as if it's brand new. I would suggest the ipad 2, but it does not have Siri or Voice Dictation, though there are some apps that help there. When they see what they want, they should get it, because they come and go on the site as they're available. Shipping was quick.


It would be great if it comes with ios 7 already installed. If not and it has ios 6.1.3, I suggeat they stay with that until Apple fixes some of the many issues many are having with the ios 7 update.(Read through some of the thousands of posts on here that started the day ios 7 was issued.) Also, given the vision issue, many are unhappy with it. Another thing I like about the ipad 2 is it does not have retina display. I have a 2010 imac with sixteen bars for brightness. If I put mine any higher than fourh, it is painful and makes me nauseous. Even at low brightness if I'm on here too long, I get occular migraines - something I never heard of until I went to the eye doctor about it. And I have never had a migraine. In this case I know it's my eyes (became noticable and diagnosed when in my twenties,) but I also know what these people with and without vision issues are going through. Three minutes in front of an ipad retina and my eyes hurt and I feel nauseous, even without ios 7. It's something I've been used to for years (not occular migraines), but for many in the threads below, it's a first time issue that hopefully will be fixed by Apple fast. So if your cousin buys one, it has ios 7 issues or if the retina is too much, they should return it and go for the ipad 2 refurb, which I'm only a little reluctant to suggest because it does not have voice dictation, and eventually as is the case with all ipads, will not be eligible for upgrades.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5342913?start=0&tstart=0


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5380660?start=0&tstart=0


I would also suggest that they DO NOT buy the ipad 3 refurbed. The ipad 3 was discontiued after only months.We planned on buying an ipad for my huband and we waited until the ipad 3 came out. There were too many problems such as overheating with it, so we decided on an ipad 2, 32 gb. However, they weren't available. So for the first time we bought a refurbished product and bought him a 64 gb. Then our younger son, home from college for the Summer, loved his dad's ipad, so now he has one. They have been great and without any problems. So I can highly recommend them. Please do not buy a refurbed ipad from anywhere else. You will not get a new cover, a brand new battery or the full one year warranty in almost all cases.


http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad


Hope this helps and I'd love to know what your cousin decides to do.

Oct 7, 2013 10:02 PM in response to Brew_too

Hi Brew_Too,


Apologies that it took until now to get back to you.


Before I start responding to the ques. you answered, I need to point out that if you want to give it as a gift, and want to actually send them one, that won't be possible unless you do it through the online UK store. Warranties are not international so if they have an issue within the first year Apple will not cover it for free because it was purchased in Canada. And, if you pay by credit card you must have a credit card in the UK and a home address attached to that credit card. It's the same with itunes gift cards. So you might need another way to get them one. Maybe you can speak to Support in Canada and see if they can help.


1. That she has internet is great so all she needs is a wireless router. Many are very inexpensive these days. Here in the USA at Best Buy, there is a Belkin for $29.99 and a Netgear for $44.99. We have the netgear which two years earlier we had paid $89.99 for. They will want one with either, bgn, or at least n. N is the newest connection. That should be bought in the UK also. They won't have a lot in their home that needs it (many computers plus xbox plus printers, etc., so simple and inexpensive will be enough.


2. Are their son and DIL somewhat knowledgeable in computers and ipads? They should be able to set them up easily. Once they have wireless set up, the ipad will connect wireless router seamlessly.


3. If they have an email address, that can be their ID. They will have to set up a passcode, password, and select security questions to answer. PLEASE MAKE SURE THEY WRITE IT DOWN AND HER SON KEEPS HIS OWN COPY, TOO.


4. Great that they are still independent. I only asked that to see if they had to deal with a particular living community's cable company, etc. They don't. Good.


5. With the newer ipad models they don't need to sync it to a computer. But if they have family close, they might bring their current laptop to your cousin periodically to sync the ipad and back-up data.


Again, Siri is definitely on the newer models (not ipad 2 or original). Once it's set up for assessibilty she will use Voice Dictation. And she can speak commands to it. Also, when her apps are set up and assessiblity is on (they'll need to learn the taps, etc.) when looking for ibooks, for example, she/they can hover over the screen with fingers and the ipad will tell her what the app is. When it's the app she wants, she puts her finger on it. It will open the app.


I've seen it in detail in the Apple online store, but can't find it now. Here's a summary.


  • VoiceOver screen reader
  • Guided Access
  • Support for playback of closed-captioned content
  • AssistiveTouch interface for adaptive accessories
  • Full-screen zoom magnification
  • Large text
  • Option to invert colors
  • Left/right volume adjustment


I just found it. www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html


If she is mobile and lives near an Apple store, maybe her son and/or DIL can take her there to a free class for 'Getting Started with iPad.' Or they can make appts. at the genius bar for help.


Though her vision is not good, she can facetime friends and relatives, including you.


If her ipad is synced to her son's computer, he can upload any music she loves from their cd's (free!) she has to his computer, make a playlist and sync that to her ipad. Or you could even do it on a UK compatible CD and send it to him to sync.


Another great thing is if someone contacts their old friends and their family and asks them to send scanned pictures to you from when they - your cousin and her husband? were young to now, they can be combined and put to music they like/love appropriate to the years of the pictures, and synced to their ipad. They could take the pictures to a local camera store, have them put on cd's (NOT read only) send them off to you or her son, make into a slide show on his computer, then sync to the ipad. I bet they'd love that, and it's good for happy memories and their memory.


That's another thing. There are so many games to improve memory.


That they can have books read to them, listen to music, face chat with family, (imagine them talking to grand children) looking at their pictures, listening to their music, etc., I think it's great and I think Apple needs to continue addressing the needs of and marketing the ipad to Seniors. It helps them feel less isolated in so many ways.


I'll try to get back to you late tomorrow (or today actually - USA - Eastern Time Zone.)


Hope this helps.


Oct 6, 2013 2:09 PM in response to Brew_too

I am partially sighted and I love my iPad. In practical terms the advantage over a traditional personal computer is that it's light weight so you can hold it as close as you need/want to.


But the advantages really come through in iOS. In the latest version, iOS 7, one can scale the size of the fonts that appear in most apps. Also, the Accessability features available really work well. Among the possibilities: VoiceOver command and screen reading; Magnifyer-with this feature on, one double-taps the screen with three fingers and the screen magniies and you can slide around over the entire desktop area of the iPad.

Oct 6, 2013 5:58 PM in response to Brew_too

Hi Brew_too,


Yes. Your relative in the UK can talk commands to Siri. There's a whole set of assessibility options that can help.


This past Spring we were buyiny an ipad for my father-in-law's 91st birthday. Before deciding, I spent many hours researching how and if it could be useful to him. He has no vision in one eye after surgery on a detached retina was unsuccessful, and only partial vision in his other eye.


It can also be helpful for the elderly. There are many games/apps that can be used to help memory, etc., and things like facebook and/or skype can keep them in contact with faraway friends and relatives. My Mom will be 87 this week and I wish she would use one!!!


Please read the link below.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4979258?answerId=21847062022#21847062022&ac_cid=tw123456#21847062


I have other info that might or might not address your needs and son't want to get off topic to help you. If you can answer these questions, I'll send you what I hope might be helpful.


1. Your relative will need a wireless connection at home to use an ipad. And that means an internet connection too (liek for cable tv.) Does he/she have one?


2. Do they have family or friends near them get them set up with that and who could set up their ipad?


3. Do they have an email address? They would need one which would be there Apple ID. I would only let someone very trustworthy do that, because anyone knowing that could cause problems for them if they use it for their own purposes. Set up the ipad without a credit card which is doable now and have someone get them itunes cards from UK (I think they're country specific.)


4. Do they live in a Senior Assisted Community? There could be some help at least for internet already set up.


5. Does or has your relative ever used a computer (familiarity?)


If you can give these answers it will help me be more specific which answers to some of your questions.


Meanwhile, check out some of these you tube videos about Seniors getting and using ipads. (I just rechecked them to make sure they're still available. They are. But if there is no sound, clich the X next to the sound sign at the bottom fo hte video. A bar will show up. Move it to your right.)


It will reaffirm that you are doing something very special that can bring much joy to your relative, and possibly help them be more connected, and less isolated.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqZpHTUhSYs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9UjA0bd8HI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilGK9nhL9M8&feature=endscreen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=rTmK9Abc60g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KKkmUxTnQ0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1zbN_-lF-Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q66iamQeuHA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCZsYUWyZHI

Oct 6, 2013 7:28 PM in response to appleuser1322

1. At the moment she just has regular internet, but I can't imagine it will be too hard to get her a wireless router.


2. They have their son and DIL near by and if I can get enough info to show its a good plan I'll contact them about all of this and I imagine they can set one up.


3. Yes she has an email address now. I imagine her son could set up her Apple ID.


4. No they still live independently.


5. She has used a very old computer that was a hand me down to her. With her vision issues she struggles to even get email to work correctly. What I would love is for her to be able to "speak" her email (and have email typed and read to her). I'm not sure this is an option. Again, she has never had a current computer and when she was trying to figure out the old one her DIL gave her, her vision was going so between an old machine, new technology (to her) and not the warmest/fussiest teacher she didn't get very far.


I know Siri can do a bunch on an iPhone (I have a 5) but is Siri on newer iPads?


Thank you for the links, I'm enjoying them. My cousin is 88 but mentally a young give anything a try sort. She saw an iPad for the first time a bit ago and I think it intrigued her. So, if I can find out what it can and can't do for her, she may be willing to buy one. :-

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