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Cartoonguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Well, the obvious answer would be to just turn off data, but that doesn't work for me because it needs to be on in order to use picture messaging, so I'm wondering how I can leave data on in order to use that one function, but make sure that no other apps quietly go and use data without me knowing.  I don't actually have a data plan so even using a just a bit will cost me a lot, so that's why I want to avoid it.  For instance, could the ios choose to update apps without asking me?  Could weather get updated without me asking if I forget and leave it running in the background?

  • chattphotos Level 4 Level 4 (1,890 points)

    If you have iOS 7, just turn off Cellular data for the specific applications.

     

    Also, no 3rd party app will use data in the background unless it is launched (maps, pandora, etc.)

     

    Mail, iCloud, and iMessage will use data in the background though. (so turn off accordingly)

  • Cartoonguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So if I accidentally open Maps or if it was left open when on wifi, then could it start using data because it has no option to switch it off?

     

    I don't see an option in Messages or Icloud to turn off data.  I don't want to turn off Icloud syncing, becasue I want it to sync when it's on wifi, so will it try to sync by itelf using data?  Also, I suppose I need messages on data to send a picture message (which doesn't actually get charged as data).

  • chattphotos Level 4 Level 4 (1,890 points)

    Use Google Maps instead.

     

    There isn't an option for iCloud sync method... it just does it no matter the connection type.

     

    iMessage is like a data connection, not SMS.

     

    Have you considered a new carrier?

  • razmee209 Level 7 Level 7 (27,840 points)

    settings - cellular - use cellular data for - you can choose from there.

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (43,045 points)

    Subscribe to a data plan. No supported carrier permits the use of an iPhone without a data plan. If you don't have a data plan, a smartphone of any type is pointless and a waste of money. Get an iPod Touch instead.

  • Cartoonguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So if there isn't an option for icloud sync method, then I presume it's going to use data when it needs to sync, like if I update an address or something that is syncing with icloud.  That's not good.  Not sure how using a different carrier would help as the issue is the same with anyone.

     

    Re: settings - cellular:  Nope, there is only one setting there, for passbook.  Nothing else.

     

    Thanks for the suggestion to subscribe to a data plan, but that's not what I'm asking.  I don't have a data plan and I don't want one.  I am fine with wifi, I just want it to not use data without my knowledge.  With respect, KiltedTim, I totally disagree with you about the usefulness of an iphone without a data plan.  Maybe you were just being sarcastic.

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (43,045 points)

    No. I wasn't being sarcastic. And the fact remains that no supported carrier permits the use of an iPhone without a data plan. If you don't want a data plan, then the iPhone is the wrong phone for you.

  • joshua274 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    I agree with the op just cause u have an iPhone don't mean u want a data plan some people just like the ease of use and apps on a iPhone and could care less about having a data plan. The iPhone is a perfect phone for him as wifi works just fine not everyone cares about paying up the *** for a data plan

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,475 points)

    Cartoonguy wrote:

     

    Well, the obvious answer would be to just turn off data, but that doesn't work for me because it needs to be on in order to use picture messaging,

    Leave it off until you want to send picture messaging (MMS), then turn it back off.

    Are you sending that many MMS that you need to leave data on?

    If so, it would be far less expensive to get a data plan.

     

    What carrier do you have that you do not have a data plan with your iPhone?

  • Cartoonguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yeah, Joshua expressed it well and Tim, you are factually wrong to say that a carrier does not permit the use of an Iphone without data.  My family using three of them and my carrier (Bell, in Canada) is fully aware of it.  They won't supply one on a subsidized contract without data, but no stopping me buying one (used) like I did and using it with all the love and support we expect from our cell phone service provider.

  • Cartoonguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yeah, true, I can switch data off and on when I need to, but even then, concerned that it starts using data to sync to icloud.  Without a plan, any use is $20 minimum, so obviously want to avoid ending up paying $20 just to send one picture because the iphone chooses to use data without me knowing it while I have it switched on for that short time.

     

    I think any carrier would allow you to stick your sim card in any phone and just use it.  This is not unusual.

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (43,045 points)

    Fine, you say Bell doesn't care... then I'll take your word for it. In that case, learn to live with the limitations that places on you, like no picture messaging, or pay the price for ala-carte data use.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,475 points)

    Without a plan, any use is $20 minimum, so obviously want to avoid ending up paying $20 just to send one picture

    You cannot avoid a $20 charge to send one picture (unless you send the pictures as iMessage over wifi). Picture text messages are sent as MMS, which is data. If you have a text messaging play, it usually includes MMS (which doesn't count as data).

    If you sent one picture, it would cost you $20. This covers the first 1GB of data

    Using any other data would not cost more until you hit 1GB then it is $0.05 per MB.

    -> http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Mobility_Terms_of_service#Pricing

     

    And what do you think is syncing with iCloud? Not much.

    Calendars & Contacts but only stuff that cahnges.

    Photo stream is wifi only.

  • Cartoonguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Tim, you are missing the point.  I'm looking to use picture messaging without a data plan.  I don't need to learn to live with the limitation.  That's just what I want to do.  Why should I have to pay for data when I don't want to use any data?  You seem caught up with the idea that I should just pay for it anyway, but that's not what I'm asking here.

     

    Chris, my Bell plan allows picture messaging, which does indeed require data, but they don't charge for that data use.  That's just the deal.  Unlimited free picture messaging included, but no data.

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